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Apr 16 2013, 06:54 PM
Bowral and Robbo only have 3 jnr teams each.

Things not looking the best there.
Mossy have 12
Mitta have 15

The problem with the Southern Highlands is that there is an aging population and land is expensive so the area doesn't attract the first home buyer family that would have junior sports aged kids.

Add to this the problem of schools like Chev that hold their sports on Saturdays and promote union and some very strong winter sports like hockey and soccer. So the clubs are competing amongst themselves for a limited population of players.

Bundanoon was making noises at the being of the year about starting a junior club but this would have an adverse effect on Mossy if it did get up and running.

Picton can only field 15 teams this season putting them at a similar size to Mittagong. In years past they would have fielded two grades in every age group - this year they have 2 U/6's, U/7's, U/8's, U/10's & U/16's (remembering that there is no U/15's comp. Thirlmere on the other hand are fielding 27 teams.

Edited by Black&White, Apr 16 2013, 08:14 PM.
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Apr 16 2013, 06:54 PM
Bowral and Robbo only have 3 jnr teams each.

Things not looking the best there.
Mossy have 12
Mitta have 15

The problem with the Southern Highlands is that there is an aging population and land is expensive so the area doesn't attract the first home buyer family that would have junior sports aged kids.

Add to this the problem of schools like Chev that hold their sports on Saturdays and promote union and some very strong winter sports like hockey and soccer. So the clubs are competing amongst themselves for a limited population of players.

Bundanoon was making noises at the being of the year about starting a junior club but this would have an adverse effect on Mossy if it did get up and running.

Picton can only field 15 teams this season putting them at a similar size to Mittagong. In years past they would have fielded two grades in every age group - this year they have 2 U/6's, U/7's, U/8's, U/10's & U/16's (remembering that there is no U/15's comp. Thirlmere on the other hand are fielding 27 teams.

The falling numbers at Picton will turn around over the next few years as there are a number of housing developments planned for the areas that their boundaries cover and the current boundaries will be adjusted as the developments go ahead.

Unfortunately for the Southern Highlands there isn't anything planned for the future that would throw them a lifeline. If a VFT was put in and the commute to the city was faster then this may open up the area to those first home buyers are "reproducing" depending on the price of land.

The Southern Highlands clubs and the Development Officers like Scott Borg have been working very hard to attract more players to our game (the visit to the area by Wests Tigers was also a great event) but they can't perform miracles.
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Apr 16 2013, 07:55 PM
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Apr 16 2013, 06:54 PM
Bowral and Robbo only have 3 jnr teams each.

Things not looking the best there.
Mossy have 12
Mitta have 15

The problem with the Southern Highlands is that there is an aging population and land is expensive so the area doesn't attract the first home buyer family that would have junior sports aged kids.

Add to this the problem of schools like Chev that hold their sports on Saturdays and promote union and some very strong winter sports like hockey and soccer. So the clubs are competing amongst themselves for a limited population of players.

Bundanoon was making noises at the being of the year about starting a junior club but this would have an adverse effect on Mossy if it did get up and running.

Picton can only field 15 teams this season putting them at a similar size to Mittagong. In years past they would have fielded two grades in every age group - this year they have 2 U/6's, U/7's, U/8's, U/10's & U/16's (remembering that there is no U/15's comp. Thirlmere on the other hand are fielding 27 teams.

The falling numbers at Picton will turn around over the next few years as there are a number of housing developments planned for the areas that their boundaries cover and the current boundaries will be adjusted as the developments go ahead.

Unfortunately for the Southern Highlands there isn't anything planned for the future that would throw them a lifeline. If a VFT was put in and the commute to the city was faster then this may open up the area to those first home buyers are "reproducing" depending on the price of land.

The Southern Highlands clubs and the Development Officers like Scott Borg have been working very hard to attract more players to our game (the visit to the area by Wests Tigers was also a great event) but they can't perform miracles.
I think the development officers have been doing a great job trying to promote the code.

At some point the clubs themselves need to look at all options. Back in 08 my son played for Robertson as a Bowral registered player as they had an agreement. Im unsure if this continues these days

Im coaching a small town team this year with just enough players and the hardest thing ive come accross is there has been multiple kids come down to the ground and say we want to play league but there parents wont let them due to safety concerns. Ive rang parents and tried to explain the sport some listern some dont its a battle!! but worth it :correct:
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Apr 16 2013, 06:54 PM
Bowral and Robbo only have 3 jnr teams each.

Things not looking the best there.
Mossy have 12
Mitta have 15

The problem with the Southern Highlands is that there is an aging population and land is expensive so the area doesn't attract the first home buyer family that would have junior sports aged kids.

Add to this the problem of schools like Chev that hold their sports on Saturdays and promote union and some very strong winter sports like hockey and soccer. So the clubs are competing amongst themselves for a limited population of players.

Bundanoon was making noises at the being of the year about starting a junior club but this would have an adverse effect on Mossy if it did get up and running.

Picton can only field 15 teams this season putting them at a similar size to Mittagong. In years past they would have fielded two grades in every age group - this year they have 2 U/6's, U/7's, U/8's, U/10's & U/16's (remembering that there is no U/15's comp. Thirlmere on the other hand are fielding 27 teams.

The falling numbers at Picton will turn around over the next few years as there are a number of housing developments planned for the areas that their boundaries cover and the current boundaries will be adjusted as the developments go ahead.

Unfortunately for the Southern Highlands there isn't anything planned for the future that would throw them a lifeline. If a VFT was put in and the commute to the city was faster then this may open up the area to those first home buyers are "reproducing" depending on the price of land.

The Southern Highlands clubs and the Development Officers like Scott Borg have been working very hard to attract more players to our game (the visit to the area by Wests Tigers was also a great event) but they can't perform miracles.
I think the development officers have been doing a great job trying to promote the code.

At some point the clubs themselves need to look at all options. Back in 08 my son played for Robertson as a Bowral registered player as they had an agreement. Im unsure if this continues these days

Im coaching a small town team this year with just enough players and the hardest thing ive come accross is there has been multiple kids come down to the ground and say we want to play league but there parents wont let them due to safety concerns. Ive rang parents and tried to explain the sport some listern some dont its a battle!! but worth it :correct:
The junior's have allowed a system of "permits" this year. It means that if a club can't fill an age group then a player can go "on loan" to another club for the season. They will still be registered as a player for "A" club but will play on permit for "B" club. This means that should "A" club be able to field a team in an age group next year there is no need for players to get clearances.

This has been done for Oran Park, Appin, Warra & The Oaks.

Edited by Black&White, Apr 16 2013, 10:30 PM.
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Apr 16 2013, 07:55 PM
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Apr 16 2013, 06:54 PM
Bowral and Robbo only have 3 jnr teams each.

Things not looking the best there.
Mossy have 12
Mitta have 15

The problem with the Southern Highlands is that there is an aging population and land is expensive so the area doesn't attract the first home buyer family that would have junior sports aged kids.

Add to this the problem of schools like Chev that hold their sports on Saturdays and promote union and some very strong winter sports like hockey and soccer. So the clubs are competing amongst themselves for a limited population of players.

Bundanoon was making noises at the being of the year about starting a junior club but this would have an adverse effect on Mossy if it did get up and running.

Picton can only field 15 teams this season putting them at a similar size to Mittagong. In years past they would have fielded two grades in every age group - this year they have 2 U/6's, U/7's, U/8's, U/10's & U/16's (remembering that there is no U/15's comp. Thirlmere on the other hand are fielding 27 teams.

The falling numbers at Picton will turn around over the next few years as there are a number of housing developments planned for the areas that their boundaries cover and the current boundaries will be adjusted as the developments go ahead.

Unfortunately for the Southern Highlands there isn't anything planned for the future that would throw them a lifeline. If a VFT was put in and the commute to the city was faster then this may open up the area to those first home buyers are "reproducing" depending on the price of land.

The Southern Highlands clubs and the Development Officers like Scott Borg have been working very hard to attract more players to our game (the visit to the area by Wests Tigers was also a great event) but they can't perform miracles.
I think the development officers have been doing a great job trying to promote the code.

At some point the clubs themselves need to look at all options. Back in 08 my son played for Robertson as a Bowral registered player as they had an agreement. Im unsure if this continues these days

Im coaching a small town team this year with just enough players and the hardest thing ive come accross is there has been multiple kids come down to the ground and say we want to play league but there parents wont let them due to safety concerns. Ive rang parents and tried to explain the sport some listern some dont its a battle!! but worth it :correct:
The junior's have allowed a system of "permits" this year. It means that if a club can't fill an age group then a player can go "on loan" to another club for the season. They will still be registered as a player for "A" club but will play on permit for "B" club. This means that should "A" club be able to field a team in an age group next year there is no need for players to get clearances.

This has been done for Oran Park, Appin, Warra & The Oaks.

Good system, very smart G6. :correct:
The safety concerns- what do you do there? We were training the other night at the Fortress. Footy field had all us ruffians on it, Soccer field all the mummys' boys...
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Apr 16 2013, 09:58 PM
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Apr 16 2013, 07:55 PM
Highlander
Apr 16 2013, 06:54 PM
Bowral and Robbo only have 3 jnr teams each.

Things not looking the best there.
Mossy have 12
Mitta have 15

The problem with the Southern Highlands is that there is an aging population and land is expensive so the area doesn't attract the first home buyer family that would have junior sports aged kids.

Add to this the problem of schools like Chev that hold their sports on Saturdays and promote union and some very strong winter sports like hockey and soccer. So the clubs are competing amongst themselves for a limited population of players.

Bundanoon was making noises at the being of the year about starting a junior club but this would have an adverse effect on Mossy if it did get up and running.

Picton can only field 15 teams this season putting them at a similar size to Mittagong. In years past they would have fielded two grades in every age group - this year they have 2 U/6's, U/7's, U/8's, U/10's & U/16's (remembering that there is no U/15's comp. Thirlmere on the other hand are fielding 27 teams.

The falling numbers at Picton will turn around over the next few years as there are a number of housing developments planned for the areas that their boundaries cover and the current boundaries will be adjusted as the developments go ahead.

Unfortunately for the Southern Highlands there isn't anything planned for the future that would throw them a lifeline. If a VFT was put in and the commute to the city was faster then this may open up the area to those first home buyers are "reproducing" depending on the price of land.

The Southern Highlands clubs and the Development Officers like Scott Borg have been working very hard to attract more players to our game (the visit to the area by Wests Tigers was also a great event) but they can't perform miracles.
I think the development officers have been doing a great job trying to promote the code.

At some point the clubs themselves need to look at all options. Back in 08 my son played for Robertson as a Bowral registered player as they had an agreement. Im unsure if this continues these days

Im coaching a small town team this year with just enough players and the hardest thing ive come accross is there has been multiple kids come down to the ground and say we want to play league but there parents wont let them due to safety concerns. Ive rang parents and tried to explain the sport some listern some dont its a battle!! but worth it :correct:
The junior's have allowed a system of "permits" this year. It means that if a club can't fill an age group then a player can go "on loan" to another club for the season. They will still be registered as a player for "A" club but will play on permit for "B" club. This means that should "A" club be able to field a team in an age group next year there is no need for players to get clearances.

This has been done for Oran Park, Appin, Warra & The Oaks.

Good system, very smart G6. :correct:
The safety concerns- what do you do there? We were training the other night at the Fortress. Footy field had all us ruffians on it, Soccer field all the mummys' boys...
It's a difficult situation.

I don't know how we combat the stigma of RL being a "dangerous" sport, especially after the recent accident that led to the tragic death of Jake Kedzlie.

We have a great system in place with mini & mod league so that our kids play in a safe environment & we have very strict guidelines in place for injury management (with trained & certified LeagueSafe and FAO's). I doubt some sports are as well policed as ours.

Kids get injured in every sport but playing a contact game increases that risk. Unfortunately no one shines a spotlight on the thousands of kids playing RL each week without incident - we only hear about the negatives.



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Camden scrape in and Narellan romp home against the Oaks


http://www.camdenadvertiser.com.au/story/1435465/camden-scrape-in-and-narellan-romp-home-against-the-oaks/?cs=1562
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CAMDEN made it two consecutive wins when they lowered Picton's colours in their Group 6 first grade rugby league clash, winning 32-28.

Narellan secured its third win of the season, with a 60-12 win over The Oaks on Sunday. Narellan scored four first-half tries to lead 22-6 at the break.

The Oaks tried hard but were outclassed by Narellan, with Rocky Trimachi and Shannon Gallant among the better players in the Jets' victory.

The Oaks coach Leo Dynevor said "fundamental errors" were a contributing factor in his team's poor showing. Dynevor said The Oaks have plenty of potential and hopes his players can improve for the clash against Picton on Saturday.

The game will be broadcast live on 2MCR 100.3FM from 7pm, with Mike Shean and the 2MCR team calling the action
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Eagles clash with Group 6 Two wins but no points yet


By Sean Cunningham

http://www.camdenadvertiser.com.au/story/1435464/eagles-clash-with-group-6-two-wins-but-no-points-yet/?cs=1562THE

Group 6 rugby league season has just started but a storm of controversy surrounds last year's premiers Campbelltown Eagles.

The Eagles have been asked to provide documentation from Wests Suburbs District Junior Rugby League to support their claims of these players having played the majority of their junior footy with East Campbelltown to be classed as Campbelltown Eagles juniors."

Yesterday, Hazelton confirmed Group 6 received the documents which the Eagles submitted on Monday afternoon. "I finally received the information yesterday afternoon now it's up the committee to review," he said.

"The Eagles have been stood down for seven days because they refuse to pay a fine.

"Their teams remain stood down until they pay their fines."

The two Eagles wins were by large margins.

How things stand: Stalemate — and the season is in turmoil in its early stages


The player points tally has reared its ugly head again.

The Eagles have won both of their opening games but they have been given no competition points.

The Campbelltown Eagle clash against Oakdale that was scheduled to be played on Sunday was being talked about by many as the match of the season.

But because the Eagles have been stood down for failing to pay a fine, the game was cancelled.

The points tally is the equivalent of the NRL's salary cap.

Group 6 accused the Eagles of exceeding its quota.

The points system deems an overseas, NRL and NSWRL representative worth 40 points.

Ron Massey Cup players and players signed from within Group 6 are worth 25 points.

A representative player at region, division or group level is worth 20 points.

A player from outside Group 6 is worth 10 points and a locally developed player and local players returning to their junior club is worth two points.

Group 6 imposed a fine on the Eagles but the club is adamant administrators have got it wrong.

Several players which Group 6 deemed to be 40-point players are in fact former Eagles' juniors and should be rated as two-point players, which would bring the tally below quota.

The Eagles informed Group 6 of the mistake but were told Group 6 needed to see the documents.

A spokesman for the Eagles said the club had provided the documents in question.

Group 6 Country Rugby League executive officer Stephen Hazelton said Group 6 had clearly asked the Eagles for the information to come from Western Suburbs District Junior Rugby League.

Group 6 were keen to see the documents.

"Until then we have to operate on the points allocated to these players looking at the clearance history we can see from 2007 onwards," Hazelton said.

"As only they have the correct player history for these players prior to 2007 as Group 6 Country Rugby League does not use or accept affidavits.



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Dropped ball costs Dragons a win
http://www.southernhighlandnews.com.au/story/1438040/dropped-ball-costs-dragons-a-win/?cs=264

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TOO much dropped ball prevented the Moss Vale Dragons finding their first win of the season on Sunday after they went down to Thirlmere-Tahmoor 38-18.

Coach Andrew Bowie said it was disappointing that for most of the game they dropped the ball on the second or third tackle.

“We just couldn’t hang on to the ball. When the third tackle came around it’s like three fingers fell off everyone,” he said.

“When we strung some passes together and completed our sets we scored two tries. We have to work on that.”

Bowie said he was not sure what was behind the poor ball control but said they would continue to work hard on ball control and sticking to their game plan.

“Sometimes we get away from our game plan and the guys aren’t sure what to do. It’s a bit hard to coach, everyone knows how to catch. It’s just something we’ve got to work on.”

The Dragons picked up late in the match to play some good patches of footy but Bowie said they needed to sustain that for the full 80 minutes.

We were fitter than Thirlmere, we just kept giving the ball to them and our reserves had already played a full game of reserve grade. Once we started to complete our sets we got on top of them. It’s just really hard when you cough up the ball early.”

Chris Enahoro scored for Moss Vale as did Tom Taylor who broke through the defensive line to run 70 metres and score.

Josh Champion scored the team’s final try off a set move late in the match.

While Moss Vale have suffered some injuries in recent weeks which have ruled key players out and led to players playing out of position, Bowie said it was still no excuse for dropping the ball.

“We were the better team for the majority of the second half. Dropped ball’s killing us.”

They will face Oakdale this weekend who Bowie said were the “gun team” in the competition

“Things aren’t going to get any easier for us. We can’t go forward until we concentrate on (ball control). We’ll just get in there and give it our best shot against Oakdale.
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Spuddies win Nines comp

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GROUP 6 Rugby League hosted their pre-season Nines tournament for the second division competition at Loseby Park Bowral on Saturday afternoon.

Five of the six teams took part in the modified competition, in front of a good crowd on a fine but cool afternoon.

The matches were a good hit out for the team’s leading into round one of their competition this weekend at Bargo Sportsground.

Most of the matches were competitive, with the teams enjoying the chance to play in a different format, with matches being completed in around 25 minutes.

The Robertson Spuddies, who were runners up in last year’s competition, were too strong for the Bundanoon Highlanders in the final, winning 28-0.

In the opening round of the competition this Sunday, Robertson will take on Jamberoo while the Bundanoon Highlanders face Appin.

In the other match Bargo play Warragamba
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Eagles clash with Group 6 Two wins but no points yet


By Sean Cunningham

http://www.camdenadvertiser.com.au/story/1435464/eagles-clash-with-group-6-two-wins-but-no-points-yet/?cs=1562THE

Group 6 rugby league season has just started but a storm of controversy surrounds last year's premiers Campbelltown Eagles.

The Eagles have been asked to provide documentation from Wests Suburbs District Junior Rugby League to support their claims of these players having played the majority of their junior footy with East Campbelltown to be classed as Campbelltown Eagles juniors."

Yesterday, Hazelton confirmed Group 6 received the documents which the Eagles submitted on Monday afternoon. "I finally received the information yesterday afternoon now it's up the committee to review," he said.

"The Eagles have been stood down for seven days because they refuse to pay a fine.

"Their teams remain stood down until they pay their fines."

The two Eagles wins were by large margins.

How things stand: Stalemate — and the season is in turmoil in its early stages


The player points tally has reared its ugly head again.

The Eagles have won both of their opening games but they have been given no competition points.

The Campbelltown Eagle clash against Oakdale that was scheduled to be played on Sunday was being talked about by many as the match of the season.

But because the Eagles have been stood down for failing to pay a fine, the game was cancelled.

The points tally is the equivalent of the NRL's salary cap.

Group 6 accused the Eagles of exceeding its quota.

The points system deems an overseas, NRL and NSWRL representative worth 40 points.

Ron Massey Cup players and players signed from within Group 6 are worth 25 points.

A representative player at region, division or group level is worth 20 points.

A player from outside Group 6 is worth 10 points and a locally developed player and local players returning to their junior club is worth two points.

Group 6 imposed a fine on the Eagles but the club is adamant administrators have got it wrong.

Several players which Group 6 deemed to be 40-point players are in fact former Eagles' juniors and should be rated as two-point players, which would bring the tally below quota.

The Eagles informed Group 6 of the mistake but were told Group 6 needed to see the documents.

A spokesman for the Eagles said the club had provided the documents in question.

Group 6 Country Rugby League executive officer Stephen Hazelton said Group 6 had clearly asked the Eagles for the information to come from Western Suburbs District Junior Rugby League.

Group 6 were keen to see the documents.

"Until then we have to operate on the points allocated to these players looking at the clearance history we can see from 2007 onwards," Hazelton said.

"As only they have the correct player history for these players prior to 2007 as Group 6 Country Rugby League does not use or accept affidavits.



That would have been interesting ! Everybody know's that East's and West's are "best buddies" :rofl: Were West's happy to forward the old records ? All concerned would have known that was going to be a very difficult task :correct:
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Eagles clash with Group 6 Two wins but no points yet


By Sean Cunningham

http://www.camdenadvertiser.com.au/story/1435464/eagles-clash-with-group-6-two-wins-but-no-points-yet/?cs=1562THE

Group 6 rugby league season has just started but a storm of controversy surrounds last year's premiers Campbelltown Eagles.

The Eagles have been asked to provide documentation from Wests Suburbs District Junior Rugby League to support their claims of these players having played the majority of their junior footy with East Campbelltown to be classed as Campbelltown Eagles juniors."

Yesterday, Hazelton confirmed Group 6 received the documents which the Eagles submitted on Monday afternoon. "I finally received the information yesterday afternoon now it's up the committee to review," he said.

"The Eagles have been stood down for seven days because they refuse to pay a fine.

"Their teams remain stood down until they pay their fines."

The two Eagles wins were by large margins.

How things stand: Stalemate — and the season is in turmoil in its early stages


The player points tally has reared its ugly head again.

The Eagles have won both of their opening games but they have been given no competition points.

The Campbelltown Eagle clash against Oakdale that was scheduled to be played on Sunday was being talked about by many as the match of the season.

But because the Eagles have been stood down for failing to pay a fine, the game was cancelled.

The points tally is the equivalent of the NRL's salary cap.

Group 6 accused the Eagles of exceeding its quota.

The points system deems an overseas, NRL and NSWRL representative worth 40 points.

Ron Massey Cup players and players signed from within Group 6 are worth 25 points.

A representative player at region, division or group level is worth 20 points.

A player from outside Group 6 is worth 10 points and a locally developed player and local players returning to their junior club is worth two points.

Group 6 imposed a fine on the Eagles but the club is adamant administrators have got it wrong.

Several players which Group 6 deemed to be 40-point players are in fact former Eagles' juniors and should be rated as two-point players, which would bring the tally below quota.

The Eagles informed Group 6 of the mistake but were told Group 6 needed to see the documents.

A spokesman for the Eagles said the club had provided the documents in question.

Group 6 Country Rugby League executive officer Stephen Hazelton said Group 6 had clearly asked the Eagles for the information to come from Western Suburbs District Junior Rugby League.

Group 6 were keen to see the documents.

"Until then we have to operate on the points allocated to these players looking at the clearance history we can see from 2007 onwards," Hazelton said.

"As only they have the correct player history for these players prior to 2007 as Group 6 Country Rugby League does not use or accept affidavits.



That would have been interesting ! Everybody know's that East's and West's are "best buddies" :rofl: Were West's happy to forward the old records ? All concerned would have known that was going to be a very difficult task :correct:
Looks like the Group has admitted they where wrong after all and the documents received prove so :correct: Where to from here :letmesee: :letmesee: An apology perhaps :dunno: :dunno: Id like to see the Oakdale game replayed i think thats a given :yeah: :yeah:

This whole debarcle is why the point system needs to run by the clubs not management :correct: :correct:
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Eagles clash with Group 6 Two wins but no points yet


By Sean Cunningham

http://www.camdenadvertiser.com.au/story/1435464/eagles-clash-with-group-6-two-wins-but-no-points-yet/?cs=1562THE

Group 6 rugby league season has just started but a storm of controversy surrounds last year's premiers Campbelltown Eagles.

The Eagles have been asked to provide documentation from Wests Suburbs District Junior Rugby League to support their claims of these players having played the majority of their junior footy with East Campbelltown to be classed as Campbelltown Eagles juniors."

Yesterday, Hazelton confirmed Group 6 received the documents which the Eagles submitted on Monday afternoon. "I finally received the information yesterday afternoon now it's up the committee to review," he said.

"The Eagles have been stood down for seven days because they refuse to pay a fine.

"Their teams remain stood down until they pay their fines."

The two Eagles wins were by large margins.

How things stand: Stalemate — and the season is in turmoil in its early stages


The player points tally has reared its ugly head again.

The Eagles have won both of their opening games but they have been given no competition points.

The Campbelltown Eagle clash against Oakdale that was scheduled to be played on Sunday was being talked about by many as the match of the season.

But because the Eagles have been stood down for failing to pay a fine, the game was cancelled.

The points tally is the equivalent of the NRL's salary cap.

Group 6 accused the Eagles of exceeding its quota.

The points system deems an overseas, NRL and NSWRL representative worth 40 points.

Ron Massey Cup players and players signed from within Group 6 are worth 25 points.

A representative player at region, division or group level is worth 20 points.

A player from outside Group 6 is worth 10 points and a locally developed player and local players returning to their junior club is worth two points.

Group 6 imposed a fine on the Eagles but the club is adamant administrators have got it wrong.

Several players which Group 6 deemed to be 40-point players are in fact former Eagles' juniors and should be rated as two-point players, which would bring the tally below quota.

The Eagles informed Group 6 of the mistake but were told Group 6 needed to see the documents.

A spokesman for the Eagles said the club had provided the documents in question.

Group 6 Country Rugby League executive officer Stephen Hazelton said Group 6 had clearly asked the Eagles for the information to come from Western Suburbs District Junior Rugby League.

Group 6 were keen to see the documents.

"Until then we have to operate on the points allocated to these players looking at the clearance history we can see from 2007 onwards," Hazelton said.

"As only they have the correct player history for these players prior to 2007 as Group 6 Country Rugby League does not use or accept affidavits.



That would have been interesting ! Everybody know's that East's and West's are "best buddies" :rofl: Were West's happy to forward the old records ? All concerned would have known that was going to be a very difficult task :correct:
Looks like the Group has admitted they where wrong after all and the documents received prove so :correct: Where to from here :letmesee: :letmesee: An apology perhaps :dunno: :dunno: Id like to see the Oakdale game replayed i think thats a given :yeah: :yeah:

This whole debarcle is why the point system needs to run by the clubs not management :correct: :correct:
Are you serious?? IF the evidence proves they are juniors then from now on they can be classed as 2 point players, but they WEREN'T classed as 2 point players and Eagles played them irrespective.

The Point system has copped criticism but at least it is making it an even playing field for ALL clubs. Fine tune it further, clubs give your input (which you have ample opportunities to do) and live with it!!

What hasn't been answered is where these players have been for the past 5 years if they aren't on any clearance history system !!!
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Sorry Jetter but IMO I cant agree. If a person goes to jail for a crime they did not commit, then they receive compensation. The Eagles always were in the right and always had the proof, but because the group wanted proof from Wests, It was always going to be slow. I believe all points should be reinstated and the Oakdale game rescheduled, to a mutually agreed time. It will be a sellout :cheers:

NB. as to your question about where have they been for the last 5 years, it is totally irrelevant to this issue.
This issue was always whether they are a 2 point players or not.
The rule states that you are a 2 point player, if you have served the majority of your junior football from 4-16 years of age with one club and return to that club, no matter what level you have achieved after that or where you went, that you are a 2 point player.
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Sorry Jetter but IMO I cant agree. If a person goes to jail for a crime they did not commit, then they receive compensation. The Eagles always were in the right and always had the proof, but because the group wanted proof from Wests, It was always going to be slow. I believe all points should be reinstated and the Oakdale game rescheduled, to a mutually agreed time. It will be a sellout :cheers:
OK Mavs, on that philosophy you commit a crime gambling you might get off, or don't commit the crime cause you know it is wrong??? In their mind they might have been right but as far as other clubs and Management were concerned they were still NOT 2 points players, and rather than not breaking the rules and standing players down till it got sorted, they made their own rules up and played them :finger: The points were on a piece of paper in front of them in black and white :yawn: Every other club didn't field players over their points but could have used that excuse too, and where would we be? Anarchy :cheers:

Anyway, just sets up for any interesting clash at Waminda when Oakdale and Eagles do play, and poor Camden will feel the wrath of Eagles this weekend I dare say :yeah:
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Interesting thoughts :dunno:

In my IMO Eagles have stood up for what they always new was 100% to be correct. If they had of stood down those players on the day and lost, the referees decision would have been final. By playing and winning the game they have the win on paper, but now have to debate the legality of the ruling to withdraw their points.

If you go with Jetters thoughts and they lost, they could not retrieve those points no matter what. I get where you are coming from Jetter, but think that if you are in the right, you should stand up for yourself no matter what, and that is what they have done. :cheers:



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Sorry Jetter but IMO I cant agree. If a person goes to jail for a crime they did not commit, then they receive compensation. The Eagles always were in the right and always had the proof, but because the group wanted proof from Wests, It was always going to be slow. I believe all points should be reinstated and the Oakdale game rescheduled, to a mutually agreed time. It will be a sellout :cheers:

NB. as to your question about where have they been for the last 5 years, it is totally irrelevant to this issue.
This issue was always whether they are a 2 point players or not.
The rule states that you are a 2 point player, if you have served the majority of your junior football from 4-16 years of age with one club and return to that club, no matter what level you have achieved after that or where you went, that you are a 2 point player.
Best post on here for a very long time, Jetter and all the Eagles haters want to see them fall over. If your telling the truth it's vary hard to lie, the Eagles made a stand said their points were wrong and proved it!!! Why should they be punished is it to even out the playing field as you say Jetter????? Only option is they get their wins play Oakdake again and let the season roll on(hopefully incident free)
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Eagles clash with Group 6 Two wins but no points yet


By Sean Cunningham

http://www.camdenadvertiser.com.au/story/1435464/eagles-clash-with-group-6-two-wins-but-no-points-yet/?cs=1562THE

Group 6 rugby league season has just started but a storm of controversy surrounds last year's premiers Campbelltown Eagles.

The Eagles have been asked to provide documentation from Wests Suburbs District Junior Rugby League to support their claims of these players having played the majority of their junior footy with East Campbelltown to be classed as Campbelltown Eagles juniors."

Yesterday, Hazelton confirmed Group 6 received the documents which the Eagles submitted on Monday afternoon. "I finally received the information yesterday afternoon now it's up the committee to review," he said.

"The Eagles have been stood down for seven days because they refuse to pay a fine.

"Their teams remain stood down until they pay their fines."

The two Eagles wins were by large margins.

How things stand: Stalemate — and the season is in turmoil in its early stages


The player points tally has reared its ugly head again.

The Eagles have won both of their opening games but they have been given no competition points.

The Campbelltown Eagle clash against Oakdale that was scheduled to be played on Sunday was being talked about by many as the match of the season.

But because the Eagles have been stood down for failing to pay a fine, the game was cancelled.

The points tally is the equivalent of the NRL's salary cap.

Group 6 accused the Eagles of exceeding its quota.

The points system deems an overseas, NRL and NSWRL representative worth 40 points.

Ron Massey Cup players and players signed from within Group 6 are worth 25 points.

A representative player at region, division or group level is worth 20 points.

A player from outside Group 6 is worth 10 points and a locally developed player and local players returning to their junior club is worth two points.

Group 6 imposed a fine on the Eagles but the club is adamant administrators have got it wrong.

Several players which Group 6 deemed to be 40-point players are in fact former Eagles' juniors and should be rated as two-point players, which would bring the tally below quota.

The Eagles informed Group 6 of the mistake but were told Group 6 needed to see the documents.

A spokesman for the Eagles said the club had provided the documents in question.

Group 6 Country Rugby League executive officer Stephen Hazelton said Group 6 had clearly asked the Eagles for the information to come from Western Suburbs District Junior Rugby League.

Group 6 were keen to see the documents.

"Until then we have to operate on the points allocated to these players looking at the clearance history we can see from 2007 onwards," Hazelton said.

"As only they have the correct player history for these players prior to 2007 as Group 6 Country Rugby League does not use or accept affidavits.



That would have been interesting ! Everybody know's that East's and West's are "best buddies" :rofl: Were West's happy to forward the old records ? All concerned would have known that was going to be a very difficult task :correct:
Looks like the Group has admitted they where wrong after all and the documents received prove so :correct: Where to from here :letmesee: :letmesee: An apology perhaps :dunno: :dunno: Id like to see the Oakdale game replayed i think thats a given :yeah: :yeah:

This whole debarcle is why the point system needs to run by the clubs not management :correct: :correct:
Are you serious?? IF the evidence proves they are juniors then from now on they can be classed as 2 point players, but they WEREN'T classed as 2 point players and Eagles played them irrespective.

The Point system has copped criticism but at least it is making it an even playing field for ALL clubs. Fine tune it further, clubs give your input (which you have ample opportunities to do) and live with it!!

What hasn't been answered is where these players have been for the past 5 years if they aren't on any clearance history system !!!
Have to agree with you jetter wrong or right in the long run doesn't matter they defied the groups instruction and though they may be harsh time to deal with the consequences. Not sure that this is saying that the group is wrong either?
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Eagles clash with Group 6 Two wins but no points yet


By Sean Cunningham

http://www.camdenadvertiser.com.au/story/1435464/eagles-clash-with-group-6-two-wins-but-no-points-yet/?cs=1562THE

Group 6 rugby league season has just started but a storm of controversy surrounds last year's premiers Campbelltown Eagles.

The Eagles have been asked to provide documentation from Wests Suburbs District Junior Rugby League to support their claims of these players having played the majority of their junior footy with East Campbelltown to be classed as Campbelltown Eagles juniors."

Yesterday, Hazelton confirmed Group 6 received the documents which the Eagles submitted on Monday afternoon. "I finally received the information yesterday afternoon now it's up the committee to review," he said.

"The Eagles have been stood down for seven days because they refuse to pay a fine.

"Their teams remain stood down until they pay their fines."

The two Eagles wins were by large margins.

How things stand: Stalemate — and the season is in turmoil in its early stages


The player points tally has reared its ugly head again.

The Eagles have won both of their opening games but they have been given no competition points.

The Campbelltown Eagle clash against Oakdale that was scheduled to be played on Sunday was being talked about by many as the match of the season.

But because the Eagles have been stood down for failing to pay a fine, the game was cancelled.

The points tally is the equivalent of the NRL's salary cap.

Group 6 accused the Eagles of exceeding its quota.

The points system deems an overseas, NRL and NSWRL representative worth 40 points.

Ron Massey Cup players and players signed from within Group 6 are worth 25 points.

A representative player at region, division or group level is worth 20 points.

A player from outside Group 6 is worth 10 points and a locally developed player and local players returning to their junior club is worth two points.

Group 6 imposed a fine on the Eagles but the club is adamant administrators have got it wrong.

Several players which Group 6 deemed to be 40-point players are in fact former Eagles' juniors and should be rated as two-point players, which would bring the tally below quota.

The Eagles informed Group 6 of the mistake but were told Group 6 needed to see the documents.

A spokesman for the Eagles said the club had provided the documents in question.

Group 6 Country Rugby League executive officer Stephen Hazelton said Group 6 had clearly asked the Eagles for the information to come from Western Suburbs District Junior Rugby League.

Group 6 were keen to see the documents.

"Until then we have to operate on the points allocated to these players looking at the clearance history we can see from 2007 onwards," Hazelton said.

"As only they have the correct player history for these players prior to 2007 as Group 6 Country Rugby League does not use or accept affidavits.



That would have been interesting ! Everybody know's that East's and West's are "best buddies" :rofl: Were West's happy to forward the old records ? All concerned would have known that was going to be a very difficult task :correct:
Looks like the Group has admitted they where wrong after all and the documents received prove so :correct: Where to from here :letmesee: :letmesee: An apology perhaps :dunno: :dunno: Id like to see the Oakdale game replayed i think thats a given :yeah: :yeah:

This whole debarcle is why the point system needs to run by the clubs not management :correct: :correct:
Are you serious?? IF the evidence proves they are juniors then from now on they can be classed as 2 point players, but they WEREN'T classed as 2 point players and Eagles played them irrespective.

The Point system has copped criticism but at least it is making it an even playing field for ALL clubs. Fine tune it further, clubs give your input (which you have ample opportunities to do) and live with it!!

What hasn't been answered is where these players have been for the past 5 years if they aren't on any clearance history system !!!
Have to agree with you jetter wrong or right in the long run doesn't matter they defied the groups instruction and though they may be harsh time to deal with the consequences. Not sure that this is saying that the group is wrong either?
We're ready to just put it all behind us and just get on with playing footy from here on out for the rest of the season ... and let the rest get sorted by the people that are dealing with it ... So lets get on with with this weeks games who is everyone tipping ???
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