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Reggie boy
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storm4lyfe
Apr 26 2013, 11:07 PM
What a bloody joke.

So would this apply to Kangaroos aswell though?

The junior club is Campbelltown City Kangaroos, seniors are Campbelltown Kangaroos.
Maybe it's because the kangaroos don't have people running the club acting like pork chops antagonising the group over every decision up until now. I feel for the players but maybe they need answers from the people who got them into this situation. 2 competitions and 2 very sour relationships with the governing bodies. What is the common denominator ????
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Apr 26 2013, 11:35 PM
red eagle
Apr 26 2013, 10:44 PM
Ozzy
Apr 26 2013, 10:37 PM
Group 6 have told the Eagles they no longer recognize east ctown as their junior club and all juniors that were 2 points will now be 10 or 25, a decision made on the run yet again, what are the Eagles to do?? They just keep copping it.
There's the reason guys say what u want but from a players point of view it's disappointing that one year they except the points then some how the decide to change the points grading on players..
East campbelltown eagles, campbelltown eagles same club
I feel for your situation.
But surely you could have scraped together something?
The points list was sent out tonight, and I was looking at yours. There are a lot of 25 & 10 point players, but there are still a spattering of 2's.
We've had to do it before, play 14 or 15 players in reserve grade, and have no fresh reserves in First Grade.
Just get through the rough period, and come out the other side stronger.
You won't recover from it like this. You are going the wrong way about it. It's most important to keep playing footy, because the players won't stick around if your not.
Somebody correct me if Iam wrong.Eagles had to change there name to play inGroup 6. So Management are right in they have no juniors.Were to now Eagles? If Oakdale do it and do it well why dont you Campbelltown boys have a go at it. shows the difference in character right there.
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footylover
Apr 27 2013, 06:44 AM
JGT
Apr 26 2013, 11:39 PM
tc6_11
Apr 26 2013, 11:35 PM
red eagle
Apr 26 2013, 10:44 PM
Ozzy
Apr 26 2013, 10:37 PM
Group 6 have told the Eagles they no longer recognize east ctown as their junior club and all juniors that were 2 points will now be 10 or 25, a decision made on the run yet again, what are the Eagles to do?? They just keep copping it.
There's the reason guys say what u want but from a players point of view it's disappointing that one year they except the points then some how the decide to change the points grading on players..
East campbelltown eagles, campbelltown eagles same club
I feel for your situation.
But surely you could have scraped together something?
The points list was sent out tonight, and I was looking at yours. There are a lot of 25 & 10 point players, but there are still a spattering of 2's.
We've had to do it before, play 14 or 15 players in reserve grade, and have no fresh reserves in First Grade.
Just get through the rough period, and come out the other side stronger.
You won't recover from it like this. You are going the wrong way about it. It's most important to keep playing footy, because the players won't stick around if your not.
Totally agree TC!

After this week we will not have any 2 point players at all 10 will be the lowest for all payer sour hands are tied ...
That does make it tougher.
There are 41 10 point players in your club, and 34 2 point players.
If the 2 point players are going to be raised to 10, then you have the ability to get 32 blokes on the park for first grade & reserve grade
This means you could have 15 in First Grade and 17 in Reserve Grade, if you want Hoare & Dunley on the park, take out 2 reserve graders and you'll still have 14 in First Grade & 15 in Reserve Grade. The Reserve Graders can fill the bench in firsts. Trust me, the club will have a much larger resolve after it.
I believe you are fighting it in the court? Is that right?
If so, get a side on the park atleast until you have your day in court, otherwise it won't be worth fighting for.
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tc6_11
Apr 27 2013, 08:44 AM
footylover
Apr 27 2013, 06:44 AM
JGT
Apr 26 2013, 11:39 PM
tc6_11
Apr 26 2013, 11:35 PM
red eagle
Apr 26 2013, 10:44 PM
Ozzy
Apr 26 2013, 10:37 PM
Group 6 have told the Eagles they no longer recognize east ctown as their junior club and all juniors that were 2 points will now be 10 or 25, a decision made on the run yet again, what are the Eagles to do?? They just keep copping it.
There's the reason guys say what u want but from a players point of view it's disappointing that one year they except the points then some how the decide to change the points grading on players..
East campbelltown eagles, campbelltown eagles same club
I feel for your situation.
But surely you could have scraped together something?
The points list was sent out tonight, and I was looking at yours. There are a lot of 25 & 10 point players, but there are still a spattering of 2's.
We've had to do it before, play 14 or 15 players in reserve grade, and have no fresh reserves in First Grade.
Just get through the rough period, and come out the other side stronger.
You won't recover from it like this. You are going the wrong way about it. It's most important to keep playing footy, because the players won't stick around if your not.
Totally agree TC!

After this week we will not have any 2 point players at all 10 will be the lowest for all payer sour hands are tied ...
That does make it tougher.
There are 41 10 point players in your club, and 34 2 point players.
If the 2 point players are going to be raised to 10, then you have the ability to get 32 blokes on the park for first grade & reserve grade
This means you could have 15 in First Grade and 17 in Reserve Grade, if you want Hoare & Dunley on the park, take out 2 reserve graders and you'll still have 14 in First Grade & 15 in Reserve Grade. The Reserve Graders can fill the bench in firsts. Trust me, the club will have a much larger resolve after it.
I believe you are fighting it in the court? Is that right?
If so, get a side on the park atleast until you have your day in court, otherwise it won't be worth fighting for.
You have 18s also who get 50 points yet Eagles majority of 18s are 10 pointers also which eats into the 1st and reserve grade meaning you have to use less then 32 players , The club would also have to sit out long serving players/juniors listed at 25 and 40 points, Mason, Harding, Standing, Moustakis,Taveaga all 25 or 40 points and just play 10 pointers it's near impossible when the 18s also play at different grounds and can't back up.
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Anyways.
We're playing against Mittagong TODAY @ OAKDALE.
Reserve Grade kickoff @ 3.00pm
First Grade kickoff @ 4.30pm
The game will be replayed on 2MCR tonight.
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Ozzy
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footydad
Apr 27 2013, 08:15 AM
tc6_11
Apr 26 2013, 11:35 PM
red eagle
Apr 26 2013, 10:44 PM
Ozzy
Apr 26 2013, 10:37 PM
Group 6 have told the Eagles they no longer recognize east ctown as their junior club and all juniors that were 2 points will now be 10 or 25, a decision made on the run yet again, what are the Eagles to do?? They just keep copping it.
There's the reason guys say what u want but from a players point of view it's disappointing that one year they except the points then some how the decide to change the points grading on players..
East campbelltown eagles, campbelltown eagles same club
I feel for your situation.
But surely you could have scraped together something?
The points list was sent out tonight, and I was looking at yours. There are a lot of 25 & 10 point players, but there are still a spattering of 2's.
We've had to do it before, play 14 or 15 players in reserve grade, and have no fresh reserves in First Grade.
Just get through the rough period, and come out the other side stronger.
You won't recover from it like this. You are going the wrong way about it. It's most important to keep playing footy, because the players won't stick around if your not.
Somebody correct me if Iam wrong.Eagles had to change there name to play inGroup 6. So Management are right in they have no juniors.Were to now Eagles? If Oakdale do it and do it well why dont you Campbelltown boys have a go at it. shows the difference in character right there.
Problem is mate Group 6 excepted the eagles juniors past 2 years yet this year in round 4 they now don't? That's not consistentcy and seems very odd and personal when you factor City Roos are not effected, yet Eagles are, makes you wonder what the logic or motive is behind the change.
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dilly
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Talking about points, as I have stated previously there are other clubs in Group 6 who have questionable player points. Maybe TC can enlighten me on some of the points that have been allocated to players at his club. There are at least four players, two who have played with The Oaks club within the last three years and two who had played with Narellan last year but these players have only been allocated 10 points, why is that? They should be 25 point players. There are others that are questionable as well. Just to put my mind at rest TC could you please explain the points these players ( and I think you know who they are) have been allocated.
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Ozzy
Apr 27 2013, 09:08 AM
footydad
Apr 27 2013, 08:15 AM
tc6_11
Apr 26 2013, 11:35 PM
red eagle
Apr 26 2013, 10:44 PM
Ozzy
Apr 26 2013, 10:37 PM
Group 6 have told the Eagles they no longer recognize east ctown as their junior club and all juniors that were 2 points will now be 10 or 25, a decision made on the run yet again, what are the Eagles to do?? They just keep copping it.
There's the reason guys say what u want but from a players point of view it's disappointing that one year they except the points then some how the decide to change the points grading on players..
East campbelltown eagles, campbelltown eagles same club
I feel for your situation.
But surely you could have scraped together something?
The points list was sent out tonight, and I was looking at yours. There are a lot of 25 & 10 point players, but there are still a spattering of 2's.
We've had to do it before, play 14 or 15 players in reserve grade, and have no fresh reserves in First Grade.
Just get through the rough period, and come out the other side stronger.
You won't recover from it like this. You are going the wrong way about it. It's most important to keep playing footy, because the players won't stick around if your not.
Somebody correct me if Iam wrong.Eagles had to change there name to play inGroup 6. So Management are right in they have no juniors.Were to now Eagles? If Oakdale do it and do it well why dont you Campbelltown boys have a go at it. shows the difference in character right there.
Problem is mate Group 6 excepted the eagles juniors past 2 years yet this year in round 4 they now don't? That's not consistentcy and seems very odd and personal when you factor City Roos are not effected, yet Eagles are, makes you wonder what the logic or motive is behind the change.
All the players are gutted that they can't run on the field with there mates that most of us have been playing together for the past 6 years ...
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Time to get out Eagles. 1st grade to Sydney Shield reserve grade to SCC A Grade. You are in the right but in the end you are not wanted as you are just too good. Points won't be an issue there.
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dilly
Apr 27 2013, 09:21 AM
Talking about points, as I have stated previously there are other clubs in Group 6 who have questionable player points. Maybe TC can enlighten me on some of the points that have been allocated to players at his club. There are at least four players, two who have played with The Oaks club within the last three years and two who had played with Narellan last year but these players have only been allocated 10 points, why is that? They should be 25 point players. There are others that are questionable as well. Just to put my mind at rest TC could you please explain the points these players ( and I think you know who they are) have been allocated.
Simple mate.
you can negotiate with the releasing club to get them reduced to 10 points. Some players are asked not to return by clubs, some clubs are not disadvantaged by players leaving, sometimes its a straight swap.
It's unfortunate it has to be like this, but sometimes you have to barter. I know I have.
I know exactly who you are talking about, and one of The Oaks players actually should be 2 points, not 10. His first ever club was Oakdale, i'm in the process of trying to get him reduced, but for now he is 10 points and I am wearing that.
Obviously you are trying to poke holes in us, nice quick way to lose any allies you may have had, and possibly a reason why you're not going to get the same hospitality that has been afforded to us.
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pastrami
Apr 26 2013, 11:06 PM
Now you guys are cutting off your nose to spite your face! Whats the point of forfeiting ALL your matches if this is happening?

The whole thing reeks of US vs THEM....
It reeks of us vs them because that's exactly how it is..it has been since we were allowed to play and has been since we were the comps best..and now the group has done everything it can do destroy it..even bend there own rules..bit hypocritical..but they got what they wanted and eagles won't play..ecspecially if it was for no points at all
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dilly
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Apr 27 2013, 10:53 AM
dilly
Apr 27 2013, 09:21 AM
Talking about points, as I have stated previously there are other clubs in Group 6 who have questionable player points. Maybe TC can enlighten me on some of the points that have been allocated to players at his club. There are at least four players, two who have played with The Oaks club within the last three years and two who had played with Narellan last year but these players have only been allocated 10 points, why is that? They should be 25 point players. There are others that are questionable as well. Just to put my mind at rest TC could you please explain the points these players ( and I think you know who they are) have been allocated.
Simple mate.
you can negotiate with the releasing club to get them reduced to 10 points. Some players are asked not to return by clubs, some clubs are not disadvantaged by players leaving, sometimes its a straight swap.
It's unfortunate it has to be like this, but sometimes you have to barter. I know I have.
I know exactly who you are talking about, and one of The Oaks players actually should be 2 points, not 10. His first ever club was Oakdale, i'm in the process of trying to get him reduced, but for now he is 10 points and I am wearing that.
Obviously you are trying to poke holes in us, nice quick way to lose any allies you may have had, and possibly a reason why you're not going to get the same hospitality that has been afforded to us.
As far as I know TC there is no provision for what you are describing in the Points rules. As for poking holes and losing allies, I simply asked a question, I hope that was not a veiled threat. You have answered my question and that is all there is to it. I believe that if there are any concessions made to a club, the rest of the clubs should be aware of them and the reasons behind it. There is a Group 6 General Committee who should be making decisions on these matters as has been done in the past as you would be fully aware. I would like everything to be open and transparent, which it is not and this is another example of how this point system has turned into a huge joke.
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dilly
Apr 27 2013, 11:09 AM
tc6_11
Apr 27 2013, 10:53 AM
dilly
Apr 27 2013, 09:21 AM
Talking about points, as I have stated previously there are other clubs in Group 6 who have questionable player points. Maybe TC can enlighten me on some of the points that have been allocated to players at his club. There are at least four players, two who have played with The Oaks club within the last three years and two who had played with Narellan last year but these players have only been allocated 10 points, why is that? They should be 25 point players. There are others that are questionable as well. Just to put my mind at rest TC could you please explain the points these players ( and I think you know who they are) have been allocated.
Simple mate.
you can negotiate with the releasing club to get them reduced to 10 points. Some players are asked not to return by clubs, some clubs are not disadvantaged by players leaving, sometimes its a straight swap.
It's unfortunate it has to be like this, but sometimes you have to barter. I know I have.
I know exactly who you are talking about, and one of The Oaks players actually should be 2 points, not 10. His first ever club was Oakdale, i'm in the process of trying to get him reduced, but for now he is 10 points and I am wearing that.
Obviously you are trying to poke holes in us, nice quick way to lose any allies you may have had, and possibly a reason why you're not going to get the same hospitality that has been afforded to us.
As far as I know TC there is no provision for what you are describing in the Points rules. As for poking holes and losing allies, I simply asked a question, I hope that was not a veiled threat. You have answered my question and that is all there is to it. I believe that if there are any concessions made to a club, the rest of the clubs should be aware of them and the reasons behind it. There is a Group 6 General Committee who should be making decisions on these matters as has been done in the past as you would be fully aware. I would like everything to be open and transparent, which it is not and this is another example of how this point system has turned into a huge joke.
Your not familiar with the points system by the sounds of it
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dilly
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tc6_11
Apr 27 2013, 11:48 AM
dilly
Apr 27 2013, 11:09 AM
tc6_11
Apr 27 2013, 10:53 AM
dilly
Apr 27 2013, 09:21 AM
Talking about points, as I have stated previously there are other clubs in Group 6 who have questionable player points. Maybe TC can enlighten me on some of the points that have been allocated to players at his club. There are at least four players, two who have played with The Oaks club within the last three years and two who had played with Narellan last year but these players have only been allocated 10 points, why is that? They should be 25 point players. There are others that are questionable as well. Just to put my mind at rest TC could you please explain the points these players ( and I think you know who they are) have been allocated.
Simple mate.
you can negotiate with the releasing club to get them reduced to 10 points. Some players are asked not to return by clubs, some clubs are not disadvantaged by players leaving, sometimes its a straight swap.
It's unfortunate it has to be like this, but sometimes you have to barter. I know I have.
I know exactly who you are talking about, and one of The Oaks players actually should be 2 points, not 10. His first ever club was Oakdale, i'm in the process of trying to get him reduced, but for now he is 10 points and I am wearing that.
Obviously you are trying to poke holes in us, nice quick way to lose any allies you may have had, and possibly a reason why you're not going to get the same hospitality that has been afforded to us.
As far as I know TC there is no provision for what you are describing in the Points rules. As for poking holes and losing allies, I simply asked a question, I hope that was not a veiled threat. You have answered my question and that is all there is to it. I believe that if there are any concessions made to a club, the rest of the clubs should be aware of them and the reasons behind it. There is a Group 6 General Committee who should be making decisions on these matters as has been done in the past as you would be fully aware. I would like everything to be open and transparent, which it is not and this is another example of how this point system has turned into a huge joke.
Your not familiar with the points system by the sounds of it
Very familiar with the points system mate.
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Apr 27 2013, 09:30 AM
Time to get out Eagles. 1st grade to Sydney Shield reserve grade to SCC A Grade. You are in the right but in the end you are not wanted as you are just too good. Points won't be an issue there.
I have been watching this from Sydney and that is exactly what I thought. The Sydney Shield has 11 teams - so Eagles could slot in as the bye . Points system is exactly the same as Bundy so should be no problems. Get on the phone to Dave Norman at NSWRL and transplant the entire team from Round 5 and then aim for a return to Bundy in 2014. In fact, should have stayed in Bundy all through - better to be near the tail of a comp than forced out of another that only wants weak teams.
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Apr 27 2013, 11:57 AM
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Apr 27 2013, 09:30 AM
Time to get out Eagles. 1st grade to Sydney Shield reserve grade to SCC A Grade. You are in the right but in the end you are not wanted as you are just too good. Points won't be an issue there.
I have been watching this from Sydney and that is exactly what I thought. The Sydney Shield has 11 teams - so Eagles could slot in as the bye . Points system is exactly the same as Bundy so should be no problems. Get on the phone to Dave Norman at NSWRL and transplant the entire team from Round 5 and then aim for a return to Bundy in 2014. In fact, should have stayed in Bundy all through - better to be near the tail of a comp than forced out of another that only wants weak teams.
thought you'd withdraw your losers comment? Pretty offensive if you ask me. Considering I still feel the Eagles side of 2011 was better, and we all know they got beat.
1 perfect year doesn't mean everything.
Anyway i'm done with it, please yourselves, but it's not good to burn bridges, who knows who will be running the comp later, probably the same crop, but it may change.
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Apr 27 2013, 08:03 AM
storm4lyfe
Apr 26 2013, 11:07 PM
What a bloody joke.

So would this apply to Kangaroos aswell though?

The junior club is Campbelltown City Kangaroos, seniors are Campbelltown Kangaroos.
Maybe it's because the kangaroos don't have people running the club acting like pork chops antagonising the group over every decision up until now. I feel for the players but maybe they need answers from the people who got them into this situation. 2 competitions and 2 very sour relationships with the governing bodies. What is the common denominator ????
Everything between the club and the group was ok.

Up until your mate hazo got involved.

Still whinging about rightfully getting the sack.

And didn't have the balls to make a decision until both Draper and barnsey were on holidays.

TC, I am we'll aware of the situation your club is in with having no juniors, and I honestly believe when it comes to juniors from The Oaks choosing to play for you guys, they should be given a bit of a discount.

Can someone tell me, why are these players suddenly not juniors, when for the past couple of years there has been no problem.
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Apr 27 2013, 03:54 PM
Reggie boy
Apr 27 2013, 08:03 AM
storm4lyfe
Apr 26 2013, 11:07 PM
What a bloody joke.

So would this apply to Kangaroos aswell though?

The junior club is Campbelltown City Kangaroos, seniors are Campbelltown Kangaroos.
Maybe it's because the kangaroos don't have people running the club acting like pork chops antagonising the group over every decision up until now. I feel for the players but maybe they need answers from the people who got them into this situation. 2 competitions and 2 very sour relationships with the governing bodies. What is the common denominator ????
Everything between the club and the group was ok.

Up until your mate hazo got involved.

Still whinging about rightfully getting the sack.

And didn't have the balls to make a decision until both Draper and barnsey were on holidays.

TC, I am we'll aware of the situation your club is in with having no juniors, and I honestly believe when it comes to juniors from The Oaks choosing to play for you guys, they should be given a bit of a discount.

Can someone tell me, why are these players suddenly not juniors, when for the past couple of years there has been no problem.
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: so true just wait for yoda to take his muzzle off
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Group 6 make and change their own rules, how can 2011-2012 Eagles juniours be counted then in round 4 2013 they are not??? How the hell is that? It's just a way of saying go away your not wanted anymore and that is as low as it gets, 75 players are left out of the game because of BS made up off the cuff new rulings to just deter the club, it's absolutely outrages I hope Ray Hadley gets wind of it and phones management asking why???
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