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Narellan Jet
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Apr 29 2013, 09:08 AM
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What a stuff up the Eagles situation is, Group 6 management needs to give themselves an uppercut. isnt there a forum held every october to sort these rules and changes? we have seen some good games over the weekend and all the talk is about the Eagles, and I would hate to see Narellan win this year with no Eagles in the comp. All we will hear is that we wouldnt off won it if Eagles where there.
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Maverick
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Apr 29 2013, 01:56 PM
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What a stuff up the Eagles situation is, Group 6 management needs to give themselves an uppercut. isnt there a forum held every october to sort these rules and changes? we have seen some good games over the weekend and all the talk is about the Eagles, and I would hate to see Narellan win this year with no Eagles in the comp. All we will hear is that we wouldnt off won it if Eagles where there. My boy was talking to an Eagles player over the weekend and what he basically said was they have been told to look for another club.
I hope my info is wrong , but if it is true, IMO Group 6 have not done rugby league in their area any favours, in fact many words come to mind, and to use just a few " wrong, unfair, unjust, immoral and maybe even illegal"
Surely this is not going to increase the standard of league in your area.
Surely the person behind this push, can see this is not a good thing, for the group, or for Rugby League.
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Apr 29 2013, 02:33 PM
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Ok, I know I am going to cop it from Eagles people but here goes.
No body likes to see players sit out. In my opinion the Group probably haven't handled this in the right way but when you get a Committee such as Eagles who agree to pay a fine and then agree to abide by the rules, sign to that, then tell all players to look for a new club 'cause Group 6 is at fault not us' you have to question the motives of elected club officials!! Like WTF??? The Eagles officials are deflecting everything back on Group 6 when in reality Eagles outsmarted themselves by breaking away from Wests and forming a new club (we're not Easts Campbelltown anymore), bringing all the players over and thinking they will all be 2 point players. Not even Appin thought they could start a new club and not be hit with points issues (no disrespect Appin).
Sure you players must be p*ssed off not playing and having to look for a new club but commonsense says you suck it up and play on, not pick up the ball and go home sulking.
Yeah the points system isnt always fair but all clubs live with it and work with it, just Eagles that can't or won't and then blame everyone else. Life wasn't meant to be fair so get over it and playing rugby league is about not showing you are hurt but bouncing up and playing harder. The way Eagles have carried on is worse than the knitting club at a old peoples home.
PS Narellan won't win the comp so they won't have to feel like they haven't won it fairly lol
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The Assistant
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Apr 29 2013, 02:56 PM
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Ok, I know I am going to cop it from Eagles people but here goes.
No body likes to see players sit out. In my opinion the Group probably haven't handled this in the right way but when you get a Committee such as Eagles who agree to pay a fine and then agree to abide by the rules, sign to that, then tell all players to look for a new club 'cause Group 6 is at fault not us' you have to question the motives of elected club officials!! Like WTF??? The Eagles officials are deflecting everything back on Group 6 when in reality Eagles outsmarted themselves by breaking away from Wests and forming a new club (we're not Easts Campbelltown anymore), bringing all the players over and thinking they will all be 2 point players. Not even Appin thought they could start a new club and not be hit with points issues (no disrespect Appin).
Sure you players must be p*ssed off not playing and having to look for a new club but commonsense says you suck it up and play on, not pick up the ball and go home sulking.
Yeah the points system isnt always fair but all clubs live with it and work with it, just Eagles that can't or won't and then blame everyone else. Life wasn't meant to be fair so get over it and playing rugby league is about not showing you are hurt but bouncing up and playing harder. The way Eagles have carried on is worse than the knitting club at a old peoples home.
PS Narellan won't win the comp so they won't have to feel like they haven't won it fairly lol You make no sense, Eagles in 2011/2012 were allowed to use juniors as 2 point players now all of a sudden they cant have you got a logic answer why that is all said and done aside that has certainly been handled poor dont you think?
And a logic answer also on why City Kangaroos are not effected? You will find all senior clubs carry a slightly differnet name and also run be seperate committess. Group 6 should have made this call back in 2011 when Easts came over not now
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Maverick
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Apr 29 2013, 03:11 PM
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Ok, I know I am going to cop it from Eagles people but here goes.
No body likes to see players sit out. In my opinion the Group probably haven't handled this in the right way but when you get a Committee such as Eagles who agree to pay a fine and then agree to abide by the rules, sign to that, then tell all players to look for a new club 'cause Group 6 is at fault not us' you have to question the motives of elected club officials!! Like WTF??? The Eagles officials are deflecting everything back on Group 6 when in reality Eagles outsmarted themselves by breaking away from Wests and forming a new club (we're not Easts Campbelltown anymore), bringing all the players over and thinking they will all be 2 point players. Not even Appin thought they could start a new club and not be hit with points issues (no disrespect Appin).
Sure you players must be p*ssed off not playing and having to look for a new club but commonsense says you suck it up and play on, not pick up the ball and go home sulking.
Yeah the points system isnt always fair but all clubs live with it and work with it, just Eagles that can't or won't and then blame everyone else. Life wasn't meant to be fair so get over it and playing rugby league is about not showing you are hurt but bouncing up and playing harder. The way Eagles have carried on is worse than the knitting club at a old peoples home.
PS Narellan won't win the comp so they won't have to feel like they haven't won it fairly lol Sorry Pastrami I just cant agree. As by your own submission this has not been handled well by the group, the facts remain. When Easts came to group 6 they were told their junior's would count. If their juniors were not to count then it should have been made clear then !!! and this would not be happening. If the group does not like the junior's being counted, then it should be put to vote by the clubs and if the vote was won, then that rule could be enforced the following year. Not 3-4 games into a season, when a side a side has spent money on players based on what their points may be for that year.
I have no ties at Eagle's at the moment, apart from knowing some good people and my comments are simply based on what I read, what I get told and what I believe to be right or wrong. "THIS IS NOT RIGHT"
Has anybody heard of anything like this happening in any other sport at any other time.
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Apr 29 2013, 04:25 PM
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Heard a runout many of the eagles boys may be heading to the oaks to play
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Apr 29 2013, 06:57 PM
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- Apr 28 2013, 06:52 PM
That was the goss today that Eagles are pulling the pin, that Management was going to adjust player points so that each club can pick up Eagle players so they aren't lost to other comps and that Baker was gone to Mittagong already!!
Every club has done their recruitment so anything for now on is a 'first in best dressed' which isn't going to be even or fair to everyone. Maybe will will have a NFL like draft where clubs pick at the Eagles pieces. Just wondering if any truth has come on this subject?? T.C...? You seem to be honest and know most things within the group... How many extra points? Is there a limit on players per team? Will there allocated points change from what the currently are? Any one have any thoughts?
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Apr 29 2013, 07:04 PM
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That was the goss today that Eagles are pulling the pin, that Management was going to adjust player points so that each club can pick up Eagle players so they aren't lost to other comps and that Baker was gone to Mittagong already!!
Every club has done their recruitment so anything for now on is a 'first in best dressed' which isn't going to be even or fair to everyone. Maybe will will have a NFL like draft where clubs pick at the Eagles pieces.
Just wondering if any truth has come on this subject?? T.C...? You seem to be honest and know most things within the group... How many extra points? Is there a limit on players per team? Will there allocated points change from what the currently are? Any one have any thoughts? Too many rumours flying around at the moment. All I know is that we wont be able to afford anyone if they did become available.
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Narellan Jet
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Apr 29 2013, 07:51 PM
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- Maverick
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- pastrami
- Apr 29 2013, 02:33 PM
Ok, I know I am going to cop it from Eagles people but here goes.
No body likes to see players sit out. In my opinion the Group probably haven't handled this in the right way but when you get a Committee such as Eagles who agree to pay a fine and then agree to abide by the rules, sign to that, then tell all players to look for a new club 'cause Group 6 is at fault not us' you have to question the motives of elected club officials!! Like WTF??? The Eagles officials are deflecting everything back on Group 6 when in reality Eagles outsmarted themselves by breaking away from Wests and forming a new club (we're not Easts Campbelltown anymore), bringing all the players over and thinking they will all be 2 point players. Not even Appin thought they could start a new club and not be hit with points issues (no disrespect Appin).
Sure you players must be p*ssed off not playing and having to look for a new club but commonsense says you suck it up and play on, not pick up the ball and go home sulking.
Yeah the points system isnt always fair but all clubs live with it and work with it, just Eagles that can't or won't and then blame everyone else. Life wasn't meant to be fair so get over it and playing rugby league is about not showing you are hurt but bouncing up and playing harder. The way Eagles have carried on is worse than the knitting club at a old peoples home.
PS Narellan won't win the comp so they won't have to feel like they haven't won it fairly lol
Sorry Pastrami I just cant agree. As by your own submission this has not been handled well by the group, the facts remain. When Easts came to group 6 they were told their junior's would count. If their juniors were not to count then it should have been made clear then !!! and this would not be happening. If the group does not like the junior's being counted, then it should be put to vote by the clubs and if the vote was won, then that rule could be enforced the following year. Not 3-4 games into a season, when a side a side has spent money on players based on what their points may be for that year. I have no ties at Eagle's at the moment, apart from knowing some good people and my comments are simply based on what I read, what I get told and what I believe to be right or wrong. " THIS IS NOT RIGHT" Has anybody heard of anything like this happening in any other sport at any other time. So why wasn't this sorted at the October Forum, why are we in Round 5 with all this do-do, i think the buck stops with Group 6 Management, they have a history of not listening to clubs and look at the way we where thrown into the wests combined comp, i don't have much time with the current management. Instead of pulling the Eagles back, get other clubs to move forward, look at our club for example. Moving clubs forward makes better Rugby League, We have mossy and the Oaks struggling and if one or two clubs fold this year and the Eagles are not in the comp, we are back to where we started 6 years ago
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pastrami
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Apr 29 2013, 08:01 PM
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Ok, I know I am going to cop it from Eagles people but here goes.
No body likes to see players sit out. In my opinion the Group probably haven't handled this in the right way but when you get a Committee such as Eagles who agree to pay a fine and then agree to abide by the rules, sign to that, then tell all players to look for a new club 'cause Group 6 is at fault not us' you have to question the motives of elected club officials!! Like WTF??? The Eagles officials are deflecting everything back on Group 6 when in reality Eagles outsmarted themselves by breaking away from Wests and forming a new club (we're not Easts Campbelltown anymore), bringing all the players over and thinking they will all be 2 point players. Not even Appin thought they could start a new club and not be hit with points issues (no disrespect Appin).
Sure you players must be p*ssed off not playing and having to look for a new club but commonsense says you suck it up and play on, not pick up the ball and go home sulking.
Yeah the points system isnt always fair but all clubs live with it and work with it, just Eagles that can't or won't and then blame everyone else. Life wasn't meant to be fair so get over it and playing rugby league is about not showing you are hurt but bouncing up and playing harder. The way Eagles have carried on is worse than the knitting club at a old peoples home.
PS Narellan won't win the comp so they won't have to feel like they haven't won it fairly lol
Sorry Pastrami I just cant agree. As by your own submission this has not been handled well by the group, the facts remain. When Easts came to group 6 they were told their junior's would count. If their juniors were not to count then it should have been made clear then !!! and this would not be happening. If the group does not like the junior's being counted, then it should be put to vote by the clubs and if the vote was won, then that rule could be enforced the following year. Not 3-4 games into a season, when a side a side has spent money on players based on what their points may be for that year. I have no ties at Eagle's at the moment, apart from knowing some good people and my comments are simply based on what I read, what I get told and what I believe to be right or wrong. " THIS IS NOT RIGHT" Has anybody heard of anything like this happening in any other sport at any other time. Two wrongs dont make it right Mav!
By your own admission you have only heard the Eagles side of the debate. Im sure Group 6 Management have their decision rock solid so that accusations of prejudice, racism and equity etc don't come into it.
Eagles have admitted they played players over the points, they paid a fine admitting guilt, signed an agreement to abide by Group 6 rules and now they don't want to at least try and work through this.
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Apr 29 2013, 08:38 PM
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The talk is their lowest pointed playrs would be 10points 37 players at 10points = 370 that isn't including 25 point players they have common sense is they can not field 3 teams and some weeks their 18s play away from reserves and first
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Apr 29 2013, 08:47 PM
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Accusations by some of group 6 handling this issue poorly, same could be said of the eagles if rumours are correct.
Silence is deafening from official sources over this matter since the paper article, yet there are plenty of opinions on this mainly from the eagles camp. Propaganda by stealth, I sincerely hope not.
Might I add this forum was shut down for 6 months due to attacks by cloak & dagger members from the eagles attacking the wests jrl and the subsequent litigation which followed, I would be very careful about how you all handle this as I and the moderators will have no hesitation in banning members indefinitely who cross the line. This forum shouldn't be ruined for all by the actions of a few.
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Apr 29 2013, 09:06 PM
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- Apr 29 2013, 08:47 PM
Accusations by some of group 6 handling this issue poorly, same could be said of the eagles if rumours are correct.
Silence is deafening from official sources over this matter since the paper article, yet there are plenty of opinions on this mainly from the eagles camp. Propaganda by stealth, I sincerely hope not.
Might I add this forum was shut down for 6 months due to attacks by cloak & dagger members from the eagles attacking the wests jrl and the subsequent litigation which followed, I would be very careful about how you all handle this as I and the moderators will have no hesitation in banning members who cross the line. This forum shouldn't be ruined for all by the actions of a few. Maybe somebody, anybody from Group 6 would get on here and put their case forward. At least if we do debate we can have the other sides story.
That is what a forum is for, to talk football, and debate the current issues. This is a pretty big current issue.
Edited by Maverick, Apr 29 2013, 09:09 PM.
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Apr 29 2013, 09:15 PM
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Accusations by some of group 6 handling this issue poorly, same could be said of the eagles if rumours are correct.
Silence is deafening from official sources over this matter since the paper article, yet there are plenty of opinions on this mainly from the eagles camp. Propaganda by stealth, I sincerely hope not.
Might I add this forum was shut down for 6 months due to attacks by cloak & dagger members from the eagles attacking the wests jrl and the subsequent litigation which followed, I would be very careful about how you all handle this as I and the moderators will have no hesitation in banning members who cross the line. This forum shouldn't be ruined for all by the actions of a few.
Maybe somebody, anybody from Group 6 would get on here and put their case forward.  At least if we do debate we can have the other sides story. That is what a forum is for, to talk football, and debate the current issues. This is a pretty big current issue. I have an issue with slandering management and having a biased not balanced argument here. The other concern is not much footy us being talked about.
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Apr 29 2013, 09:47 PM
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Accusations by some of group 6 handling this issue poorly, same could be said of the eagles if rumours are correct.
Silence is deafening from official sources over this matter since the paper article, yet there are plenty of opinions on this mainly from the eagles camp. Propaganda by stealth, I sincerely hope not.
Might I add this forum was shut down for 6 months due to attacks by cloak & dagger members from the eagles attacking the wests jrl and the subsequent litigation which followed, I would be very careful about how you all handle this as I and the moderators will have no hesitation in banning members who cross the line. This forum shouldn't be ruined for all by the actions of a few.
Maybe somebody, anybody from Group 6 would get on here and put their case forward.  At least if we do debate we can have the other sides story. That is what a forum is for, to talk football, and debate the current issues. This is a pretty big current issue. I think it will be taken care of on Wednesday night. You can't take too many people seriously on here. Too many faceless people and half of them i'm not even sure are the people who they say they are.
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Apr 29 2013, 10:38 PM
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The talk is their lowest pointed playrs would be 10points 37 players at 10points = 370 that isn't including 25 point players they have common sense is they can not field 3 teams and some weeks their 18s play away from reserves and first
PASTRAMI have a read of the above mate. Lol its not as easy as just getting on with it when you cant field 3 teams with the points allocated
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Apr 30 2013, 08:08 AM
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Accusations by some of group 6 handling this issue poorly, same could be said of the eagles if rumours are correct.
Silence is deafening from official sources over this matter since the paper article, yet there are plenty of opinions on this mainly from the eagles camp. Propaganda by stealth, I sincerely hope not.
Might I add this forum was shut down for 6 months due to attacks by cloak & dagger members from the eagles attacking the wests jrl and the subsequent litigation which followed, I would be very careful about how you all handle this as I and the moderators will have no hesitation in banning members who cross the line. This forum shouldn't be ruined for all by the actions of a few.
Maybe somebody, anybody from Group 6 would get on here and put their case forward.  At least if we do debate we can have the other sides story. That is what a forum is for, to talk football, and debate the current issues. This is a pretty big current issue.
I have an issue with slandering management and having a biased not balanced argument here. The other concern is not much footy us being talked about. Goes two ways, EAGLES have copped their fair amount of slander also not just Group 6.
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Apr 30 2013, 08:12 AM
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The talk is their lowest pointed playrs would be 10points 37 players at 10points = 370 that isn't including 25 point players they have common sense is they can not field 3 teams and some weeks their 18s play away from reserves and first
PASTRAMI have a read of the above mate. Lol its not as easy as just getting on with it when you cant field 3 teams with the points allocated It will be near impossible
reports are players are sticking solid by the club and will not be flocking to other Group 6 clubs regardless of any outcome. dont forget this effects 60 players not just 17 1st graders, all these players need to be catered for whatever happens we cant see 60 players lost to the game
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Apr 30 2013, 08:46 AM
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Accusations by some of group 6 handling this issue poorly, same could be said of the eagles if rumours are correct.
Silence is deafening from official sources over this matter since the paper article, yet there are plenty of opinions on this mainly from the eagles camp. Propaganda by stealth, I sincerely hope not.
Might I add this forum was shut down for 6 months due to attacks by cloak & dagger members from the eagles attacking the wests jrl and the subsequent litigation which followed, I would be very careful about how you all handle this as I and the moderators will have no hesitation in banning members indefinitely who cross the line. This forum shouldn't be ruined for all by the actions of a few. BD has been on holiday in France and Gallipoli at the moment.
That's why we haven't heard much from him.
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Apr 30 2013, 08:47 AM
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The talk is their lowest pointed playrs would be 10points 37 players at 10points = 370 that isn't including 25 point players they have common sense is they can not field 3 teams and some weeks their 18s play away from reserves and first
Yep.
Effectively all teams would need to play with 10 or less players for the rest of the season.
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