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Yoda
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May 5 2013, 09:24 AM
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I'm comfortable with my decision last night, and if anyone wants to ask the way I voted, go ahead, PM me and i'll let you know. I asked a question last night, and I think it's valid. Eagles played in round 4 vs Camden. You guys won, and won well, but what changed between Round 4 & 5? The delegates couldn't give a clear answer. I really just want to know. If the Eagles had've turned up to play in some capacity last Sunday we wouldn't be talking about this, because ultimately the clubs (not management) lost faith In the Eagles, and they felt that the Eagles couldn't be trusted to turn up in future fixtures. Ringing Ray Hadley and blaming Hazo is pretty poor form. You should be exploring the appeals avenue, not pointing fingers. Hazo must be the most powerful man in group 6, because he has managed to get all the clubs to vote you out. Think about it guys. Every time someone gets on here and questions the Eagles, you try and troll them, and try and build this Us vs Them approach, which is not good, you are not getting to the core of the problem, and you are not taking things on board. I had a member of the Eagles call me on Tuesday arvo asking for advice on how they should tackle the situation, and not one thing I mentioned to him was acted upon. Everyone I have met and dealt with at the Eagles loves the club, and they are passionate about football, and more so their club. But sometimes passion clouds your judgement, and honestly I think it has killed you guys because you got stuck on the wrong path. Gary and Richard tried their level best last night, but ultimately (and no disrespect intended) they weren't the right men for the job. If you had your time again, a different approach would have worked wonders.
Really good to be back, I had the best holiday but i have to feel for all the players, supporters, officials, and sponsors that has been let down by this ridiculous decision, I couldn't of asked for two better people to represent our club, did they get the opportunity to get there point across? No matter who attended that night, the Group 6 management was going for that outcome! You ask the difference from Round 4 to Round 5, they again Changed the Rules, and you should know this TC as like they done at Thirlmere, they changed the rules from us having 320 points to 250 points, when asked where in the rule book does it say that, the Group 6 Management reply was "it doesn't matter, we just made an executive decision, we can do that" very fair practice 10 minutes before Reserve Grade kick off! So the rule from Round 4 to Round 5 was; we now don't have a junior club, Campbelltown Eagles and East Campbelltown Eagles in there eyes are two separate clubs, mind you the Campbelltown Eagles constitution states they are the Senior Club to the East Campbelltown JRLFC, but they can change the rules as they stated! Over the past weeks we have sat players out, ran out with players playing 2 games backing up, all in aid of management pointing our players incorrect! An example was used Craig Moustakas at the meeting, We never said Craig was a Junior, but he played 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013 for our 1st Grade side, in Group 6 not Bundy Cup, but hey, this years rule now states our club has only been in the comp for 2 Years, lets make him 25 points, Our clubs record games played junior Steve Harding came back at 40 Points, and the list goes on! I'm all for the points system and playing all my junior years at one club makes me happy to bring juniors back home and that's what we did, we loss Lala Neemia, the Lahey Brothers, Dreves and Ben Weir, we bring in 3 Sauvao Brothers that played 32 years between them and not one was recognized as a Junior, what's the use having a point system if you can't manage it correctly? Why send the points out 2 days before round 1, look how Penrith does there points, 2 Weeks before Round 1, clubs have 1 week to go over them, and the opposition has a week to look over them, the whole points has been so badly done. And yes Disco, we sat with the Group Management and got nowhere, we got documentation from Wests Magpies and got nowhere, we got documentation from Wests Juniors and that's when we where told, we are separate clubs, no difference to Camden Rams JRLFC and Camden Rams RLFC, (used Camden as an example only) The funny thing is, and not only was it said to me by Graham Andrews but said to other members of our committee, "you are a superpower and we are going to do something about it" well they did just that, why not just tell us to play a higher level and let us be on our way, why wait for Round 5, pretty gutless don't you think? What about when they slandered our club for the so called forfeit in the Under 18's against Camden, again typical dramatic accusations by Group Management, the game was played, we could of played with 9 players to stay under the points that week, we played 20 but handed the win over to Camden as we said we didn't want to see 18 year olds miss out, we got hammered by Group 6 Management saying what we done wasn't in the spirit of the game, sorry I don't know where playing our guys just to get a run wasn't in the spirit, they played, funny how what they have done kicking our club out looks in the spirit of the game! Work that one out, they didn't care about the poor 18's on Wednesday night! People have been asking about our side of the story, there it is! Would you want your club treated this way????? And no Disco, it's not an attack on the Group 6 Management, just the facts, happy for them to reply, the only reply you will get will be from Pastrami or Yoda, wonder why? Wow how good was yesterday may 4th is a massive day on my calender!!! Anyway dusty as I am I'd hate to diss appoint you by not replying. It's funny you liken yourself to thirlmere because I can't recall them ever being voted out of the group even though in your words the group did the same thing to them? Didn't they overcome that adversity to make last years GF? As you clearly state this action by the group isn't unprecedented its the way you have responded that has led to the group taking further action. You obviously can't see that and all I've heard is how tight this easts team is from all reports you have players leaving to stay and play in the competition that according to you has spited them??? Hopefully for your players sake ull learn a lesson here and when you take the reminants of what was a great team to the next competition this wont happen again.
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May 5 2013, 10:06 AM
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I'm comfortable with my decision last night, and if anyone wants to ask the way I voted, go ahead, PM me and i'll let you know. I asked a question last night, and I think it's valid. Eagles played in round 4 vs Camden. You guys won, and won well, but what changed between Round 4 & 5? The delegates couldn't give a clear answer. I really just want to know. If the Eagles had've turned up to play in some capacity last Sunday we wouldn't be talking about this, because ultimately the clubs (not management) lost faith In the Eagles, and they felt that the Eagles couldn't be trusted to turn up in future fixtures. Ringing Ray Hadley and blaming Hazo is pretty poor form. You should be exploring the appeals avenue, not pointing fingers. Hazo must be the most powerful man in group 6, because he has managed to get all the clubs to vote you out. Think about it guys. Every time someone gets on here and questions the Eagles, you try and troll them, and try and build this Us vs Them approach, which is not good, you are not getting to the core of the problem, and you are not taking things on board. I had a member of the Eagles call me on Tuesday arvo asking for advice on how they should tackle the situation, and not one thing I mentioned to him was acted upon. Everyone I have met and dealt with at the Eagles loves the club, and they are passionate about football, and more so their club. But sometimes passion clouds your judgement, and honestly I think it has killed you guys because you got stuck on the wrong path. Gary and Richard tried their level best last night, but ultimately (and no disrespect intended) they weren't the right men for the job. If you had your time again, a different approach would have worked wonders.
Really good to be back, I had the best holiday but i have to feel for all the players, supporters, officials, and sponsors that has been let down by this ridiculous decision, I couldn't of asked for two better people to represent our club, did they get the opportunity to get there point across? No matter who attended that night, the Group 6 management was going for that outcome! You ask the difference from Round 4 to Round 5, they again Changed the Rules, and you should know this TC as like they done at Thirlmere, they changed the rules from us having 320 points to 250 points, when asked where in the rule book does it say that, the Group 6 Management reply was "it doesn't matter, we just made an executive decision, we can do that" very fair practice 10 minutes before Reserve Grade kick off! So the rule from Round 4 to Round 5 was; we now don't have a junior club, Campbelltown Eagles and East Campbelltown Eagles in there eyes are two separate clubs, mind you the Campbelltown Eagles constitution states they are the Senior Club to the East Campbelltown JRLFC, but they can change the rules as they stated! Over the past weeks we have sat players out, ran out with players playing 2 games backing up, all in aid of management pointing our players incorrect! An example was used Craig Moustakas at the meeting, We never said Craig was a Junior, but he played 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013 for our 1st Grade side, in Group 6 not Bundy Cup, but hey, this years rule now states our club has only been in the comp for 2 Years, lets make him 25 points, Our clubs record games played junior Steve Harding came back at 40 Points, and the list goes on! I'm all for the points system and playing all my junior years at one club makes me happy to bring juniors back home and that's what we did, we loss Lala Neemia, the Lahey Brothers, Dreves and Ben Weir, we bring in 3 Sauvao Brothers that played 32 years between them and not one was recognized as a Junior, what's the use having a point system if you can't manage it correctly? Why send the points out 2 days before round 1, look how Penrith does there points, 2 Weeks before Round 1, clubs have 1 week to go over them, and the opposition has a week to look over them, the whole points has been so badly done. And yes Disco, we sat with the Group Management and got nowhere, we got documentation from Wests Magpies and got nowhere, we got documentation from Wests Juniors and that's when we where told, we are separate clubs, no difference to Camden Rams JRLFC and Camden Rams RLFC, (used Camden as an example only) The funny thing is, and not only was it said to me by Graham Andrews but said to other members of our committee, "you are a superpower and we are going to do something about it" well they did just that, why not just tell us to play a higher level and let us be on our way, why wait for Round 5, pretty gutless don't you think? What about when they slandered our club for the so called forfeit in the Under 18's against Camden, again typical dramatic accusations by Group Management, the game was played, we could of played with 9 players to stay under the points that week, we played 20 but handed the win over to Camden as we said we didn't want to see 18 year olds miss out, we got hammered by Group 6 Management saying what we done wasn't in the spirit of the game, sorry I don't know where playing our guys just to get a run wasn't in the spirit, they played, funny how what they have done kicking our club out looks in the spirit of the game! Work that one out, they didn't care about the poor 18's on Wednesday night! People have been asking about our side of the story, there it is! Would you want your club treated this way????? And no Disco, it's not an attack on the Group 6 Management, just the facts, happy for them to reply, the only reply you will get will be from Pastrami or Yoda, wonder why? very well put, hopefully now everyone can see the truth
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May 5 2013, 10:11 AM
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If you read it correctly "Yoda" this was a rule change that happened at a game against Thirlmere, Not to Thirlmere. "A rule change at the game ????"
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Yoda
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May 5 2013, 10:21 AM
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If you read it correctly "Yoda" this was a rule change that happened at a game against Thirlmere, Not to Thirlmere. "A rule change at the game ????" ahhhh maverick i sense the force is strong in you.......Like I said mate abit dusty this morning. Never the less my point is that BD and co are still arguing over the facts when they needed to go to the group and simply ask how can we make this right. Ask oakdale and thirlmere they probably felt they were unfairly penalised but obeyed the groups ruling. Refs sometimes make the wrong call doesn't mean you can argue or boycott the game until he changes the decision
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Mr_Facts
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May 5 2013, 11:14 AM
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Enough of this East Campbelltown do-do!! They were hard done by and it will hurt group 6's credibility, when your looking at the competitions strength. Feel for the boys and would love them in the comp.
Anyways we wanted Baker back at the Jets but the committee didn't now he is lacing up at Mitta today.
Where are all the other boys playing at????? Everyone spill your knowledge and know bullshat
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May 5 2013, 11:53 AM
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Dunley would be better at the tigers instead of that moltzen
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disco stu
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May 5 2013, 04:17 PM
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Not a good day at mossy with the dragons blowing a 32-18 lead midway in the second half to go down 38-32 to the oaks. The tigers won the Reggies also 28-22.
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May 5 2013, 05:55 PM
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Good come from behind win for Thirlmere getting up 34 to 30. Flanno was great and Gallant was the best for Narellan scoring a couple of long range try's.
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pastrami
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May 5 2013, 05:56 PM
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I'm hearing Dunley is close to signing at Narellan....
Dasher always gets his man, this will be spot on
Dasher thinks he runs that joint but he ain't on the committee  Dunley is at Rams  Chicka doing his magic recruiting every ex Magpie he can......Ray Cashmere is on the horizon they reckon
Dasher has done more for the game that what you could ever dream off, Please tell us what you have done that is so good for Rugby League? I hear you where a well below average footballer as well as coach. I've never coached !!
My credentials?? Played rep footy for a NRL club, not first grade though and played in 2 Group 6 Grand Finals, one a winner the other on the losing end.
Whats your resume??
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May 5 2013, 05:59 PM
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I went and watched City play Oakdale today. Although the Workers were to strong, both teams were out there to play footy. Unfortunately there were a few players from another club at the game that decided to start a fight with the Oakdale club after the game. This club is not doing themselves any favours.
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May 5 2013, 06:01 PM
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I'm comfortable with my decision last night, and if anyone wants to ask the way I voted, go ahead, PM me and i'll let you know. I asked a question last night, and I think it's valid. Eagles played in round 4 vs Camden. You guys won, and won well, but what changed between Round 4 & 5? The delegates couldn't give a clear answer. I really just want to know. If the Eagles had've turned up to play in some capacity last Sunday we wouldn't be talking about this, because ultimately the clubs (not management) lost faith In the Eagles, and they felt that the Eagles couldn't be trusted to turn up in future fixtures. Ringing Ray Hadley and blaming Hazo is pretty poor form. You should be exploring the appeals avenue, not pointing fingers. Hazo must be the most powerful man in group 6, because he has managed to get all the clubs to vote you out. Think about it guys. Every time someone gets on here and questions the Eagles, you try and troll them, and try and build this Us vs Them approach, which is not good, you are not getting to the core of the problem, and you are not taking things on board. I had a member of the Eagles call me on Tuesday arvo asking for advice on how they should tackle the situation, and not one thing I mentioned to him was acted upon. Everyone I have met and dealt with at the Eagles loves the club, and they are passionate about football, and more so their club. But sometimes passion clouds your judgement, and honestly I think it has killed you guys because you got stuck on the wrong path. Gary and Richard tried their level best last night, but ultimately (and no disrespect intended) they weren't the right men for the job. If you had your time again, a different approach would have worked wonders.
Really good to be back, I had the best holiday but i have to feel for all the players, supporters, officials, and sponsors that has been let down by this ridiculous decision, I couldn't of asked for two better people to represent our club, did they get the opportunity to get there point across? No matter who attended that night, the Group 6 management was going for that outcome! You ask the difference from Round 4 to Round 5, they again Changed the Rules, and you should know this TC as like they done at Thirlmere, they changed the rules from us having 320 points to 250 points, when asked where in the rule book does it say that, the Group 6 Management reply was "it doesn't matter, we just made an executive decision, we can do that" very fair practice 10 minutes before Reserve Grade kick off! So the rule from Round 4 to Round 5 was; we now don't have a junior club, Campbelltown Eagles and East Campbelltown Eagles in there eyes are two separate clubs, mind you the Campbelltown Eagles constitution states they are the Senior Club to the East Campbelltown JRLFC, but they can change the rules as they stated! Over the past weeks we have sat players out, ran out with players playing 2 games backing up, all in aid of management pointing our players incorrect! An example was used Craig Moustakas at the meeting, We never said Craig was a Junior, but he played 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013 for our 1st Grade side, in Group 6 not Bundy Cup, but hey, this years rule now states our club has only been in the comp for 2 Years, lets make him 25 points, Our clubs record games played junior Steve Harding came back at 40 Points, and the list goes on! I'm all for the points system and playing all my junior years at one club makes me happy to bring juniors back home and that's what we did, we loss Lala Neemia, the Lahey Brothers, Dreves and Ben Weir, we bring in 3 Sauvao Brothers that played 32 years between them and not one was recognized as a Junior, what's the use having a point system if you can't manage it correctly? Why send the points out 2 days before round 1, look how Penrith does there points, 2 Weeks before Round 1, clubs have 1 week to go over them, and the opposition has a week to look over them, the whole points has been so badly done. And yes Disco, we sat with the Group Management and got nowhere, we got documentation from Wests Magpies and got nowhere, we got documentation from Wests Juniors and that's when we where told, we are separate clubs, no difference to Camden Rams JRLFC and Camden Rams RLFC, (used Camden as an example only) The funny thing is, and not only was it said to me by Graham Andrews but said to other members of our committee, "you are a superpower and we are going to do something about it" well they did just that, why not just tell us to play a higher level and let us be on our way, why wait for Round 5, pretty gutless don't you think? What about when they slandered our club for the so called forfeit in the Under 18's against Camden, again typical dramatic accusations by Group Management, the game was played, we could of played with 9 players to stay under the points that week, we played 20 but handed the win over to Camden as we said we didn't want to see 18 year olds miss out, we got hammered by Group 6 Management saying what we done wasn't in the spirit of the game, sorry I don't know where playing our guys just to get a run wasn't in the spirit, they played, funny how what they have done kicking our club out looks in the spirit of the game! Work that one out, they didn't care about the poor 18's on Wednesday night! People have been asking about our side of the story, there it is! Would you want your club treated this way????? And no Disco, it's not an attack on the Group 6 Management, just the facts, happy for them to reply, the only reply you will get will be from Pastrami or Yoda, wonder why?
very well put, hopefully now everyone can see the truth Well I do wonder why BD? Maybe because it is the egos of the power brokers at Eagles that couldn't see threw their rose tinted glasses and look at the future, but rather try and win an argument they could never win.
Of all my comments over this issue that resonates with other clubs it disappounts me that Eagles dug their heels in when all they had to do was be apologetic and work with clubs and Committees, but no, you guys had to argue the point
Well I guess you guys have learnt the lesson, but hey, whats the point now??
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May 5 2013, 06:24 PM
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I'm comfortable with my decision last night, and if anyone wants to ask the way I voted, go ahead, PM me and i'll let you know. I asked a question last night, and I think it's valid. Eagles played in round 4 vs Camden. You guys won, and won well, but what changed between Round 4 & 5? The delegates couldn't give a clear answer. I really just want to know. If the Eagles had've turned up to play in some capacity last Sunday we wouldn't be talking about this, because ultimately the clubs (not management) lost faith In the Eagles, and they felt that the Eagles couldn't be trusted to turn up in future fixtures. Ringing Ray Hadley and blaming Hazo is pretty poor form. You should be exploring the appeals avenue, not pointing fingers. Hazo must be the most powerful man in group 6, because he has managed to get all the clubs to vote you out. Think about it guys. Every time someone gets on here and questions the Eagles, you try and troll them, and try and build this Us vs Them approach, which is not good, you are not getting to the core of the problem, and you are not taking things on board. I had a member of the Eagles call me on Tuesday arvo asking for advice on how they should tackle the situation, and not one thing I mentioned to him was acted upon. Everyone I have met and dealt with at the Eagles loves the club, and they are passionate about football, and more so their club. But sometimes passion clouds your judgement, and honestly I think it has killed you guys because you got stuck on the wrong path. Gary and Richard tried their level best last night, but ultimately (and no disrespect intended) they weren't the right men for the job. If you had your time again, a different approach would have worked wonders.
Really good to be back, I had the best holiday but i have to feel for all the players, supporters, officials, and sponsors that has been let down by this ridiculous decision, I couldn't of asked for two better people to represent our club, did they get the opportunity to get there point across? No matter who attended that night, the Group 6 management was going for that outcome! You ask the difference from Round 4 to Round 5, they again Changed the Rules, and you should know this TC as like they done at Thirlmere, they changed the rules from us having 320 points to 250 points, when asked where in the rule book does it say that, the Group 6 Management reply was "it doesn't matter, we just made an executive decision, we can do that" very fair practice 10 minutes before Reserve Grade kick off! So the rule from Round 4 to Round 5 was; we now don't have a junior club, Campbelltown Eagles and East Campbelltown Eagles in there eyes are two separate clubs, mind you the Campbelltown Eagles constitution states they are the Senior Club to the East Campbelltown JRLFC, but they can change the rules as they stated! Over the past weeks we have sat players out, ran out with players playing 2 games backing up, all in aid of management pointing our players incorrect! An example was used Craig Moustakas at the meeting, We never said Craig was a Junior, but he played 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013 for our 1st Grade side, in Group 6 not Bundy Cup, but hey, this years rule now states our club has only been in the comp for 2 Years, lets make him 25 points, Our clubs record games played junior Steve Harding came back at 40 Points, and the list goes on! I'm all for the points system and playing all my junior years at one club makes me happy to bring juniors back home and that's what we did, we loss Lala Neemia, the Lahey Brothers, Dreves and Ben Weir, we bring in 3 Sauvao Brothers that played 32 years between them and not one was recognized as a Junior, what's the use having a point system if you can't manage it correctly? Why send the points out 2 days before round 1, look how Penrith does there points, 2 Weeks before Round 1, clubs have 1 week to go over them, and the opposition has a week to look over them, the whole points has been so badly done. And yes Disco, we sat with the Group Management and got nowhere, we got documentation from Wests Magpies and got nowhere, we got documentation from Wests Juniors and that's when we where told, we are separate clubs, no difference to Camden Rams JRLFC and Camden Rams RLFC, (used Camden as an example only) The funny thing is, and not only was it said to me by Graham Andrews but said to other members of our committee, "you are a superpower and we are going to do something about it" well they did just that, why not just tell us to play a higher level and let us be on our way, why wait for Round 5, pretty gutless don't you think? What about when they slandered our club for the so called forfeit in the Under 18's against Camden, again typical dramatic accusations by Group Management, the game was played, we could of played with 9 players to stay under the points that week, we played 20 but handed the win over to Camden as we said we didn't want to see 18 year olds miss out, we got hammered by Group 6 Management saying what we done wasn't in the spirit of the game, sorry I don't know where playing our guys just to get a run wasn't in the spirit, they played, funny how what they have done kicking our club out looks in the spirit of the game! Work that one out, they didn't care about the poor 18's on Wednesday night! People have been asking about our side of the story, there it is! Would you want your club treated this way????? And no Disco, it's not an attack on the Group 6 Management, just the facts, happy for them to reply, the only reply you will get will be from Pastrami or Yoda, wonder why?
very well put, hopefully now everyone can see the truth
Well I do wonder why BD? Maybe because it is the egos of the power brokers at Eagles that couldn't see threw their rose tinted glasses and look at the future, but rather try and win an argument they could never win. Of all my comments over this issue that resonates with other clubs it disappounts me that Eagles dug their heels in when all they had to do was be apologetic and work with clubs and Committees, but no, you guys had to argue the point Well I guess you guys have learnt the lesson, but hey, whats the point now??
Get off ya pest, I think everyone's sick of hearing ya bullshit dribble, talk some common sence about footy or get ya Internet disconnected so we don't have to listen to ya dribble.
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May 5 2013, 06:29 PM
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- tc6_11
- May 2 2013, 05:12 PM
I'm comfortable with my decision last night, and if anyone wants to ask the way I voted, go ahead, PM me and i'll let you know. I asked a question last night, and I think it's valid. Eagles played in round 4 vs Camden. You guys won, and won well, but what changed between Round 4 & 5? The delegates couldn't give a clear answer. I really just want to know. If the Eagles had've turned up to play in some capacity last Sunday we wouldn't be talking about this, because ultimately the clubs (not management) lost faith In the Eagles, and they felt that the Eagles couldn't be trusted to turn up in future fixtures. Ringing Ray Hadley and blaming Hazo is pretty poor form. You should be exploring the appeals avenue, not pointing fingers. Hazo must be the most powerful man in group 6, because he has managed to get all the clubs to vote you out. Think about it guys. Every time someone gets on here and questions the Eagles, you try and troll them, and try and build this Us vs Them approach, which is not good, you are not getting to the core of the problem, and you are not taking things on board. I had a member of the Eagles call me on Tuesday arvo asking for advice on how they should tackle the situation, and not one thing I mentioned to him was acted upon. Everyone I have met and dealt with at the Eagles loves the club, and they are passionate about football, and more so their club. But sometimes passion clouds your judgement, and honestly I think it has killed you guys because you got stuck on the wrong path. Gary and Richard tried their level best last night, but ultimately (and no disrespect intended) they weren't the right men for the job. If you had your time again, a different approach would have worked wonders.
Really good to be back, I had the best holiday but i have to feel for all the players, supporters, officials, and sponsors that has been let down by this ridiculous decision, I couldn't of asked for two better people to represent our club, did they get the opportunity to get there point across? No matter who attended that night, the Group 6 management was going for that outcome! You ask the difference from Round 4 to Round 5, they again Changed the Rules, and you should know this TC as like they done at Thirlmere, they changed the rules from us having 320 points to 250 points, when asked where in the rule book does it say that, the Group 6 Management reply was "it doesn't matter, we just made an executive decision, we can do that" very fair practice 10 minutes before Reserve Grade kick off! So the rule from Round 4 to Round 5 was; we now don't have a junior club, Campbelltown Eagles and East Campbelltown Eagles in there eyes are two separate clubs, mind you the Campbelltown Eagles constitution states they are the Senior Club to the East Campbelltown JRLFC, but they can change the rules as they stated! Over the past weeks we have sat players out, ran out with players playing 2 games backing up, all in aid of management pointing our players incorrect! An example was used Craig Moustakas at the meeting, We never said Craig was a Junior, but he played 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013 for our 1st Grade side, in Group 6 not Bundy Cup, but hey, this years rule now states our club has only been in the comp for 2 Years, lets make him 25 points, Our clubs record games played junior Steve Harding came back at 40 Points, and the list goes on! I'm all for the points system and playing all my junior years at one club makes me happy to bring juniors back home and that's what we did, we loss Lala Neemia, the Lahey Brothers, Dreves and Ben Weir, we bring in 3 Sauvao Brothers that played 32 years between them and not one was recognized as a Junior, what's the use having a point system if you can't manage it correctly? Why send the points out 2 days before round 1, look how Penrith does there points, 2 Weeks before Round 1, clubs have 1 week to go over them, and the opposition has a week to look over them, the whole points has been so badly done. And yes Disco, we sat with the Group Management and got nowhere, we got documentation from Wests Magpies and got nowhere, we got documentation from Wests Juniors and that's when we where told, we are separate clubs, no difference to Camden Rams JRLFC and Camden Rams RLFC, (used Camden as an example only) The funny thing is, and not only was it said to me by Graham Andrews but said to other members of our committee, "you are a superpower and we are going to do something about it" well they did just that, why not just tell us to play a higher level and let us be on our way, why wait for Round 5, pretty gutless don't you think? What about when they slandered our club for the so called forfeit in the Under 18's against Camden, again typical dramatic accusations by Group Management, the game was played, we could of played with 9 players to stay under the points that week, we played 20 but handed the win over to Camden as we said we didn't want to see 18 year olds miss out, we got hammered by Group 6 Management saying what we done wasn't in the spirit of the game, sorry I don't know where playing our guys just to get a run wasn't in the spirit, they played, funny how what they have done kicking our club out looks in the spirit of the game! Work that one out, they didn't care about the poor 18's on Wednesday night! People have been asking about our side of the story, there it is! Would you want your club treated this way????? And no Disco, it's not an attack on the Group 6 Management, just the facts, happy for them to reply, the only reply you will get will be from Pastrami or Yoda, wonder why?
very well put, hopefully now everyone can see the truth
Well I do wonder why BD? Maybe because it is the egos of the power brokers at Eagles that couldn't see threw their rose tinted glasses and look at the future, but rather try and win an argument they could never win. Of all my comments over this issue that resonates with other clubs it disappounts me that Eagles dug their heels in when all they had to do was be apologetic and work with clubs and Committees, but no, you guys had to argue the point Well I guess you guys have learnt the lesson, but hey, whats the point now??
Get off ya pest, I think everyone's sick of hearing ya bullshit dribble, talk some common sence about footy or get ya Internet disconnected so we don't have to listen to ya dribble. OK...sorry Mossy boy my bad
PS when is Hindmarsh playing for u guys again???
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May 5 2013, 06:30 PM
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- Mr_Facts
- May 5 2013, 11:14 AM
Enough of this East Campbelltown do-do!! They were hard done by and it will hurt group 6's credibility, when your looking at the competitions strength. Feel for the boys and would love them in the comp.
Anyways we wanted Baker back at the Jets but the committee didn't now he is lacing up at Mitta today.
Where are all the other boys playing at????? Everyone spill your knowledge and know bullshat Hoare and dunley as well as a couple others to camdan, although camdan want to keep most of there juniors coming thru, there in a sticky sitcho on what to do, few reggies will go to appin!
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May 5 2013, 06:34 PM
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- pastrami
- May 5 2013, 06:29 PM
- mossyboy
- May 5 2013, 06:24 PM
- pastrami
- May 5 2013, 06:01 PM
- mckormick
- May 5 2013, 10:06 AM
- Blue Devil
- May 5 2013, 05:41 AM
- tc6_11
- May 2 2013, 05:12 PM
I'm comfortable with my decision last night, and if anyone wants to ask the way I voted, go ahead, PM me and i'll let you know. I asked a question last night, and I think it's valid. Eagles played in round 4 vs Camden. You guys won, and won well, but what changed between Round 4 & 5? The delegates couldn't give a clear answer. I really just want to know. If the Eagles had've turned up to play in some capacity last Sunday we wouldn't be talking about this, because ultimately the clubs (not management) lost faith In the Eagles, and they felt that the Eagles couldn't be trusted to turn up in future fixtures. Ringing Ray Hadley and blaming Hazo is pretty poor form. You should be exploring the appeals avenue, not pointing fingers. Hazo must be the most powerful man in group 6, because he has managed to get all the clubs to vote you out. Think about it guys. Every time someone gets on here and questions the Eagles, you try and troll them, and try and build this Us vs Them approach, which is not good, you are not getting to the core of the problem, and you are not taking things on board. I had a member of the Eagles call me on Tuesday arvo asking for advice on how they should tackle the situation, and not one thing I mentioned to him was acted upon. Everyone I have met and dealt with at the Eagles loves the club, and they are passionate about football, and more so their club. But sometimes passion clouds your judgement, and honestly I think it has killed you guys because you got stuck on the wrong path. Gary and Richard tried their level best last night, but ultimately (and no disrespect intended) they weren't the right men for the job. If you had your time again, a different approach would have worked wonders.
Really good to be back, I had the best holiday but i have to feel for all the players, supporters, officials, and sponsors that has been let down by this ridiculous decision, I couldn't of asked for two better people to represent our club, did they get the opportunity to get there point across? No matter who attended that night, the Group 6 management was going for that outcome! You ask the difference from Round 4 to Round 5, they again Changed the Rules, and you should know this TC as like they done at Thirlmere, they changed the rules from us having 320 points to 250 points, when asked where in the rule book does it say that, the Group 6 Management reply was "it doesn't matter, we just made an executive decision, we can do that" very fair practice 10 minutes before Reserve Grade kick off! So the rule from Round 4 to Round 5 was; we now don't have a junior club, Campbelltown Eagles and East Campbelltown Eagles in there eyes are two separate clubs, mind you the Campbelltown Eagles constitution states they are the Senior Club to the East Campbelltown JRLFC, but they can change the rules as they stated! Over the past weeks we have sat players out, ran out with players playing 2 games backing up, all in aid of management pointing our players incorrect! An example was used Craig Moustakas at the meeting, We never said Craig was a Junior, but he played 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013 for our 1st Grade side, in Group 6 not Bundy Cup, but hey, this years rule now states our club has only been in the comp for 2 Years, lets make him 25 points, Our clubs record games played junior Steve Harding came back at 40 Points, and the list goes on! I'm all for the points system and playing all my junior years at one club makes me happy to bring juniors back home and that's what we did, we loss Lala Neemia, the Lahey Brothers, Dreves and Ben Weir, we bring in 3 Sauvao Brothers that played 32 years between them and not one was recognized as a Junior, what's the use having a point system if you can't manage it correctly? Why send the points out 2 days before round 1, look how Penrith does there points, 2 Weeks before Round 1, clubs have 1 week to go over them, and the opposition has a week to look over them, the whole points has been so badly done. And yes Disco, we sat with the Group Management and got nowhere, we got documentation from Wests Magpies and got nowhere, we got documentation from Wests Juniors and that's when we where told, we are separate clubs, no difference to Camden Rams JRLFC and Camden Rams RLFC, (used Camden as an example only) The funny thing is, and not only was it said to me by Graham Andrews but said to other members of our committee, "you are a superpower and we are going to do something about it" well they did just that, why not just tell us to play a higher level and let us be on our way, why wait for Round 5, pretty gutless don't you think? What about when they slandered our club for the so called forfeit in the Under 18's against Camden, again typical dramatic accusations by Group Management, the game was played, we could of played with 9 players to stay under the points that week, we played 20 but handed the win over to Camden as we said we didn't want to see 18 year olds miss out, we got hammered by Group 6 Management saying what we done wasn't in the spirit of the game, sorry I don't know where playing our guys just to get a run wasn't in the spirit, they played, funny how what they have done kicking our club out looks in the spirit of the game! Work that one out, they didn't care about the poor 18's on Wednesday night! People have been asking about our side of the story, there it is! Would you want your club treated this way????? And no Disco, it's not an attack on the Group 6 Management, just the facts, happy for them to reply, the only reply you will get will be from Pastrami or Yoda, wonder why?
very well put, hopefully now everyone can see the truth
Well I do wonder why BD? Maybe because it is the egos of the power brokers at Eagles that couldn't see threw their rose tinted glasses and look at the future, but rather try and win an argument they could never win. Of all my comments over this issue that resonates with other clubs it disappounts me that Eagles dug their heels in when all they had to do was be apologetic and work with clubs and Committees, but no, you guys had to argue the point Well I guess you guys have learnt the lesson, but hey, whats the point now??
Get off ya pest, I think everyone's sick of hearing ya bullshit dribble, talk some common sence about footy or get ya Internet disconnected so we don't have to listen to ya dribble.
OK...sorry Mossy boy my bad PS when is Hindmarsh playing for u guys again??? Couldn't tell ya, maybe ask disco he knows a lil more then I do!
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May 5 2013, 07:57 PM
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- mckormick
- May 4 2013, 10:09 PM
ive heard kangaroos have been given the same treatment as eagles and will have there points stripped from previous wins, if you ask me just another case of disliking campbelltown teams........ That will very disappointing seeing they are coming into some good footy especially with a few easts boys going there
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May 5 2013, 09:21 PM
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- normy
- May 5 2013, 05:59 PM
I went and watched City play Oakdale today. Although the Workers were to strong, both teams were out there to play footy. Unfortunately there were a few players from another club at the game that decided to start a fight with the Oakdale club after the game. This club is not doing themselves any favours. So while every one is getting on with the season we have thugs and troublemakers starting drama in the crowd. Disgraceful be gone and stay gone
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May 5 2013, 09:28 PM
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- footydad
- May 5 2013, 09:21 PM
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- May 5 2013, 05:59 PM
I went and watched City play Oakdale today. Although the Workers were to strong, both teams were out there to play footy. Unfortunately there were a few players from another club at the game that decided to start a fight with the Oakdale club after the game. This club is not doing themselves any favours.
So while every one is getting on with the season we have thugs and troublemakers starting drama in the crowd. Disgraceful be gone and stay gone So this is the behaviour we should expect from Eagles - disgraceful! Watch them make it someone else's fault!
Glad to see them gone!
Bring out the vitriol!
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May 5 2013, 09:31 PM
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The Group 6 1st Grade Representative squad has been announced;
Scott Borg Mittagong Ben Baker Mittagong Matthew Brasington Thirlmere Christopher Corby Camden Samuel Conlon Oakdale Warwick Carter Mittagong Wade Dunley Camden Stuart Flanagan Thirlmere Shannon Gallant Narellan Brad Hopkins Oakdale Matt McCauley Oakdale Allan McGrath Narellan Tom Moon Oakdale Christian Nahlous The Oaks Robert Payne Mittagong Alex Peters Picton Corey Shields Narellan Matthew Thorpe Mittagong Jaydin Tavita The Oaks Ben Takaiwai Narellan Alex Vincent Camden Chris Young Picton Kyle Weh Oakdale
Coach Brendon Reeves Manager Warren Horsfield Trainers David Arthur Linda Kitchen Mounir Nahlous
What a strong squad!
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May 5 2013, 09:57 PM
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- JGT
- May 5 2013, 09:31 PM
The Group 6 1st Grade Representative squad has been announced;
Scott Borg Mittagong Ben Baker Mittagong Matthew Brasington Thirlmere Christopher Corby Camden Samuel Conlon Oakdale Warwick Carter Mittagong Wade Dunley Camden Stuart Flanagan Thirlmere Shannon Gallant Narellan Brad Hopkins Oakdale Matt McCauley Oakdale Allan McGrath Narellan Tom Moon Oakdale Christian Nahlous The Oaks Robert Payne Mittagong Alex Peters Picton Corey Shields Narellan Matthew Thorpe Mittagong Jaydin Tavita The Oaks Ben Takaiwai Narellan Alex Vincent Camden Chris Young Picton Kyle Weh Oakdale
Coach Brendon Reeves Manager Warren Horsfield Trainers David Arthur Linda Kitchen Mounir Nahlous
What a strong squad!
Who and when do they play? A strong squad. It will be tough to cut. Players. Hopkins was very good today! A lot of involvement, and alot bigger then when he last played in the comp in 2011.
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