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2013 Centenary Year; Discussion of clubs celebrating 100 years in 2013 and the history of Group 6.
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foal
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Hi all,

In 2013 Picton Magpies will be celebrating 100 years since the club was formed. I understand a number of other clubs will also be having centenary celebrations. I know Mittagong are, actually we've found out Picton's first game was against Mittagong.

I'd love to find out more about what plans other clubs have to celebrate this mile stone. A number of us at Picton have been trying to piece together a bit of a history. It would be great if we could share information on here. My knowledge of the history of the game since I started playing is pretty good but doesn't extend far beyond that. Things like a list of premiers going back to the formation of the group would be priceless.

I have heard of a book of the history of group 6 that was put together by Hilton Middleton some time ago. If anyone knows of where I could get my hands on a copy, even to borrow, I would be eternally grateful. I'd even be willing to hand over my priceless collection of original, imported, imitation star wars themed shampoo bottles as a down payment if necessary.

In all seriousness, I hope we can generate some meaningful discussion regarding the history of group 6 on here.

Thanks.
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Hey Mate I did a little reading and found pictons fist grade premierships from 2012 to 1945 and captain/coaches
2009,cap/co Gary dowes
2005,cap/co Gary dowes
1999,cap/co Simon cox
1987,cap/co rob stone
1986,cap/co rob stone
1985,cap/co henniker
1981,co Barry mcglynn
1966,cap/co billy peel.
1966 yous also won the Clayton cup a also believe it was the first time a group six team one it
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Also found that the first competition for leauge was infact berrima district rugby leauge in 1914 and was made up of, picton, mittagong, Mossvale, robertson, bowral, thirlmere and wildes valley...
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Picton Magpies would win the Group's first ever Clayton Cup with an undefeated season in 1966 under the captain- coaching of Billy Peel. The Magpies were on track to go back-to-back in 1967, entering the 1967 decider undefeated. However, in one of the Group's biggest ever boilovers, Mittagong Lions rolled the black 'n whites, denying Picton a certain back-to-back Clayton Cup.

With the loss of the Campbelltown clubs, Moss Vale was left way out in front of the remaining teams- or so it seemed. After cruising through 1984 season, the Dragons were expected to repeat the dose in 1985. With their youthful combination now hitting the peak of its powers, the red and whites destroyed Picton 42–8 in the 1985 Major Semi Final and started at Black Caviar odds to secure the Premiership in a canter. The Maggies would have other ideas though. Captain- coached by former NSWRL 1st Grader Rod Henniker, Picton caused one of the Group's biggest upsets, turning the tables 16–8 in the 1985 decider at Kirkham Park, Camden.

Surprisingly, Henniker turned down the 1986 captain- coaching job at Picton. The Magpies certainly didn't let that affect their ambitions, going better and appointing former 1977 and 1979 St George Dragons premiership winner and front row hardman, Robert Stone to steer their club's fortunes. In a true golden era for the black and whites, Stone masterminded the 1986 and 1987 premiership successes at Victoria Park.

2009, After years of senior Rugby League decline in both the former Campbelltown area of the Group and the Group itself, the NSWRL and CRL agreed to form a joint senior competition for the Wests Junior League and Group 6 areas. This competition involved ten 1st Grade clubs. Picton Magpies RLFC under the coaching of local junior and former Wests Magpies NRL Second Rower Gary Dowse claimed the first reunified premiership with a 26–12 triumph over arch-rivals Thirlmere Roosters at Kirkham Park, Camden

1st Grade Premierships:

2009: Picton Magpies RLFC (Captain Coach- Gary Dowse)
2005: Picton Magpies RLFC (Captain Coach: Gary Dowse)
1999 Picton Magpies RLFC (Captain Coach – Simon Cox)
1987: Picton Magpies RLFC (Captain Coach- Robert Stone)
1986: Picton Magpies RLFC (Captain Coach- Robert Stone)
1985: Picton Magpies RLFC (Captain Coach- Rod Henniker)
1981: Picton Magpies RLFC (Non- playing coach: Barry McGlynn)
*1966: Picton Magpies RLFC (Captain Coach- Billy Peel) CRL Clayton Cup Winners

Picton in 1966 and Mittagong in 1991 are the only Group 6 teams to have won the Clayton Cup, awarded for being Country Rugby League's team of the year. Both teams won their Premierships with undefeated records.
Picton were on track for a consecutive undefeated season and Clayton Cup in 1967 until defeated by John Cole's Mittagong team in a massive Grand Final boilover.
Picton were on the winning side though in the 1985 Grand Final when they defeated Moss Vale 16–8 at Kirkham Park, Camden. This was only two weeks after being decimated 42–8 in the major semi by Mossy.
The Picton vs East Campbelltown Eagles trial match played on 29 March 2009 was the first time a senior match has occurred between the Campbelltown & Group 6 clubs since 1983. This was also the first time that the Picton club had played at Orana Park/ Campbelltown Stadium since their 1983 minor semi final loss to The Oaks Tigers, captain- coach Ronnie Kain's last match.
No club has won 4 consecutive grand finals in Group 6. The closest teams to this feat were Campbelltown City in 1972 & 1976 and Picton in 1988. All 3 teams were bundled out in the preliminary final of those respective seasons.
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foal
Dec 10 2012, 04:26 PM
Hi all,

In 2013 Picton Magpies will be celebrating 100 years since the club was formed. I understand a number of other clubs will also be having centenary celebrations. I know Mittagong are, actually we've found out Picton's first game was against Mittagong.

I'd love to find out more about what plans other clubs have to celebrate this mile stone. A number of us at Picton have been trying to piece together a bit of a history. It would be great if we could share information on here. My knowledge of the history of the game since I started playing is pretty good but doesn't extend far beyond that. Things like a list of premiers going back to the formation of the group would be priceless.

I have heard of a book of the history of group 6 that was put together by Hilton Middleton some time ago. If anyone knows of where I could get my hands on a copy, even to borrow, I would be eternally grateful. I'd even be willing to hand over my priceless collection of original, imported, imitation star wars themed shampoo bottles as a down payment if necessary.

In all seriousness, I hope we can generate some meaningful discussion regarding the history of group 6 on here.

Thanks.
Nice initiative foal.
Group 6 Rugby League Wikipedia
is a good starting point.
I have the Middleton book. How about we say I get 2 copies printed per club and give out at the next General Meeting?
Middleton book cuts off in 1989, so there is a lot of history to update.
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From a moss vale perspective, moss vale were formed as a rugby union side in 1910 before they became a league team in 1914.

Rugby Union was played in the area as far back as 1890, with the Berrima District Rugby League making it's debut in 1914. Teams in the 1914 premiership with Moss Vale were Picton, Robertson, Bowral, Mittagong, Thirlmere and Wildes Valley. In 1933 the Berrima League broke into Northen and Southern competitions. The only records available from that time is the result from the 1935 premiership. Picton won the Northen premiership, with a 17-0 win over The Oaks, whilst Bowral beat Robertson 7-0 in their decider. Picton, having won the stronger Northen premiership, gave Bowral a 7 point handicap and still triumphed 27-6. Moss Vale Rugby league club was founded in 1910 and the team took part in cup football around 1914. In those days the club was known as the Moss Vale Blues because of the sky blue jersey's they wore. Between this time up until the 1950's they went under another moniker, at times, called the Wingecarribee Rugby League Club, which included the areas of Robertson. Robertson Spuddies didn't form its own entity until 1951. Moss Vale "Blues" won its first premiership in 1920 with only a handfull of teams in the comp at the time. In 1933 the Berrima District League was formed to control football in the district & Tom Friend, a Moss Vale clubman, was appointed a delegate to a meeting of country rugby league officials in 1934. The seven delegates were appointed selectors for country representative teams and this body eventually became CRL of today. Moss Vale cut ties with Robertson to be a stand alone team and in 1952 and Moss Vale coached by ex Newtown winger Ted Mckinley lost to Picton in the grand final. In 1953, Moss Vale won its first premiership under the group 6 banner defeating Picton at Mittagong by a field goal to Jim Daley. For the record, the team consisted of Trevor Luke, Johnny Mason, Ian Clarke, Red Roche, Jim Daley, Billy Beveridge, Frank Foodey, Leo Cummings, Rob Mcgregor, Ray Partridge, "Bokka"Ryan(captain) & Frank"Farook"Wilson. Ray Partridge, in particular, became the first Moss Vale player to represent Country. Frank Foodey went on to play for North Sydney, but came back to Moss Vale in 1955 to captain coach, where Moss Vale picked up the title in 1955 & were runners up in 59, 60, 61 & 62. The 1950's Southern Highlands end of group 6 was much more stronger than its northern counterparts (far cry from today) with Moss Vale, Bowral, Robertson & Mittagong all being a dominant force through these times. This period also saw a colour change with Moss Vale changing from their sky blue strip adopting a red & white stripe jumper. In 1959 the clubs jumpers became white with a red V and Moss Vale became known as the "DRAGONS". The change in design was to conform to a major sposor who had adopted the club. Moss Vale made the 1959 Grand Final, losing to rivals Mittagong 6 -5. In 1964, Mittagong won the premiership with an 8-2 win over Bowral. Bowral went one better in 1965, defeating Campbelltown City 14-3 in the decider. After Picton upset Mittagong 7-0 in 1966, Mittagong reversed the result the next year with an 8-0 Grand Final win. 1968 saw Bowral premiers when they beat Mittagong 4-2 in a tight decider. Moss Vale player Ian Clarke is a local legend, who astonishingly played approximately 30 years of senior football for the Dragons... 1950-80 barring a year at Nowra in 1955 and would have to be somewhat of a record for appearances and years played. As you can imagine he is the most capped Moss Vale player. In 1975, Moss Vale dropped down to the second division competition and made the grand final that year, only to be beaten by the Berrima Colts. Moss Vale won the premiership in 1982 defeating Campletown City 28 -13. In 1983, after being undefeated all season until the Major Semi, the Dragons bowed out in the Final to Cambpelltown City. Moss Vale defeated Camden to win the 1984 premiership with a thumping 36-12 win over the Rams. In 1985 Moss Vale again made the grand final after thumping Picton 42-6 in the Major to move straight into the Grand Final, only to be beaten 14-8 against Picton. The Dragons again made it in 1990 defeating local rivals Mittagong 20-12. Moss Vale have made grand final appearances in minor grades but records there are sketchy. The early & mid 90's saw a dark period for the club with a lot of the premiership players from 80's and 1990 retiring at once, leaving an inexperienced side with player talent very thin. Former Parramatta and Souths hooker, Ken Stewart, coached the Dragons in 93 & 94 seasons. Owen Saunders, a former Mossy Dragon & Illawarra Steeler, returned to captain coach the side in 95 to moderate success, as was the Greg Maloney coached teams in 96, 97 & 98. In 1997, 1st grade went the entire year without a win and 1998 was an unlucky year with the 1st grade finishing 6th after being undefeated half way througout the year, with injuries costing them at the final hurdle. The year 2000 saw the dragons having to simply survive due to shortage of player numbers and with no Junior U/18's coming through for the last 4 years, merging with the Bowral/Robertson pioneers, having moderate success again. 2001 was a turbulent year again with Moss Vale finishing middle of the pack. Player numbers again saw a number of clubs struggling in 2001, which saw group 6 introduce a 2nd division competition in 2002 where Moss Vale, Bowral, Robertson, Mittagong, Mt Annan, Warragamba competed. The 2nd divison comp was disbanded after 1 year with Moss Vale feilding a Reserves and U/18's side for the next 2 years with the Reserves from 2004 just missing out on the semi's. 2005 saw Moss Vale re-enter 1st grade for the first time since 2001. Trevor schodel took the helm in 06/07 and started to rebuild a competitive team which in 2010 under the captain coach of Willie McDonald saw a premiership in 2010.
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foal
Dec 10 2012, 04:26 PM
Hi all,

In 2013 Picton Magpies will be celebrating 100 years since the club was formed. I understand a number of other clubs will also be having centenary celebrations. I know Mittagong are, actually we've found out Picton's first game was against Mittagong.

I'd love to find out more about what plans other clubs have to celebrate this mile stone. A number of us at Picton have been trying to piece together a bit of a history. It would be great if we could share information on here. My knowledge of the history of the game since I started playing is pretty good but doesn't extend far beyond that. Things like a list of premiers going back to the formation of the group would be priceless.

I have heard of a book of the history of group 6 that was put together by Hilton Middleton some time ago. If anyone knows of where I could get my hands on a copy, even to borrow, I would be eternally grateful. I'd even be willing to hand over my priceless collection of original, imported, imitation star wars themed shampoo bottles as a down payment if necessary.

In all seriousness, I hope we can generate some meaningful discussion regarding the history of group 6 on here.

Thanks.
Nice initiative foal.
Group 6 Rugby League Wikipedia
is a good starting point.
I have the Middleton book. How about we say I get 2 copies printed per club and give out at the next General Meeting?
Middleton book cuts off in 1989, so there is a lot of history to update.
Thanks Orana. That would be fantastic.
And thanks everyone for your feedback so far, it's been great.
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The KNIGHTS commenced operations in 1995. From the humble beginnings of 3 teams in our inaugural years, The Knights are now a club on the Rise in the CRL Group 6 competition fielding 17/18 junior teams and 2 Senior teams.

The Knights first home ground was Wandarrah Reserve, Mount Annan. The Knights later relocated to the Jack Nash Reserve, Currans Hill.
The club experienced premiership success for the first time in 2002 when the Under 11s took out the B competition further premiership success followed in 2005 with both the 11A and 11B sides winning their respective grand finals. Season 2006 saw the U/12A's continue their success with their second consecutive premiership and the U/10A's taking out their first. In 2007 the club's first International side, the 16Bs won their premiership by going through the season undeafeated. 2008 saw the 11Bs and 12As win their respective premierships. The club's Senior under 18 sides have won two titles, in 2008 and 2011.

Currently the Knights junior club represents around 250 young families in the area and these numbers are expected to grow. The club's philosophy is simple and that is to provide a safe and fun environment for the children in the community to learn and play rugby league. The Knights Senior Club fields teams in the Group 6 Under 18 and Reserve Grade Competition (2012 Season).

As a club, The Knights are dedicated to developing the talent in junior footballers and whilst achievement is important, the club view participation as equally important and the club is committed to ensuring players of all ability will enjoy their rugby league experience.

The Knights are based on a family orientated club and a non-profit organization with the policy of giving as much back to the kids as possible. The Knights aim to develop a culture within the club where players, family and friends will experience a real sense of belonging to their football club and enjoy the social aspects that the association provides.
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A SHORT HISTORY OF GROUP 6
When the original boundaries were drawn to divide the Country areas of NSW into a number of Groups within which local competitions would be conducted, it was highly probable that this area was to be a buffer zone between the City and Country, within which boundaries it would be most unlikely that a viable competition could ever be staged. The City area finished at a point somewhere between Liverpool and Campbelltown in the north, while the Group's southern extremity was just south of Wingello, which is a hamlet halfway between Moss Vale and Goulburn. The boundary between the Highlands and the coast was somewhere between Robertson and Kangaroo Valley. The result was that Group 6 had within it's borders only four relatively small towns. They were Moss Vale and Bowral in the south and Camden and Campbelltown in the north. There was also a number of small villages scattered throughout the area.

Obviously the organisation of any sort of a competition was difficult, especially in view of the lack of transport available in those days, which were during the late twenties and early thirties. Most teams travelled by train or horsedrawn vehicles, as motor transport was virtually non existent. The result was the Group divided into two zones. The southern end formed the Berrima District League which organised a competition centred around Bowral, while the northern end became the Wollondilly League. These teams arranged matches with Clubs mainly from the Western Suburbs of Sydney. Challenge Cup football was played extensively during this period. There was only a small number of clubs able to field first grade teams. However due to the depression, the vast number of young men who were unemployed stayed around their parental home, and were keen to participate in sport. Hence there a number of second grade sides in the villages. Football, cricket and tennis were the main sources of entertainment, so places that are still little more than a spot on the map, such as Wingello, Wildes Meadow, Sutton Forest, Kangaloon and Burragorang were able to field teams. There were some competitions played, but by the mid thirties the situation became almost impossible. A handicap system was tried one season, but the Group folded up the next.

Challenge Cup football kept the Group alive until the outbreak of the Second World War when the Group went into recess. The turbulent years immediately following the war were at first bolstered by the number of young ex-servicemen returning to the district. These young men, mainly in the early to mid twenties were fit and keen, and the sport once again prospered. Even then the original imbalance between the size of towns proved a problem. There were still only the four towns of any size - and those were small in comparison to towns in other areas. Mittagong and Picton were the next biggest, and these only had a population of around the one thousand mark, while places such as The Oaks, Bargo, Thirlmere and Robertson were only villages of a few hundred people. The rules were that all players were supposed to live within the boundaries of the club. This meant that "ring-ins" were inevitable, hence many disputes erupted. During the mid fifties a policy of trying to centralise the sport into the major centres was tried, and failed to the point that the Group was in danger of collapsing. It was necessary to encourage the reformation of the small clubs. Since those difficult times the Group has gone through a number of phases. The rebuilding of the competition was one thing. The other was that the standard of play had also hit rock bottom.

The Group representative teams were being humiliated by our neighbours Group 7 while the combined Group 6 and 7 teams were being flogged by Illawarra. The Group embarked on a rebuilding programme which included the commencement of a coaching school for young players. The school was the first of its type to be held in Australia. The first coach to control the school was Harry Bath, who was later to coach Australia. In later years some of the sport's top coaches were to handle the school. Bob Bugden, Martin Gallagher, Paul Broughton, Jack Troy and Kevin Mossman were amongst the many that gave their services to following schools. The first steps were taken to form the Junior League and later still the Minor League. Gradually the standard improved until we were holding our own with Group 7 and the combined side was doing the same with Illawarra. With the large expansion of the Group during the early 70's came a much higher grade of professionalism and a very strong junior league. The problem of the stronger and more financial clubs being able to attract the best players from the weaker and less affluent, threatened to wreak havoc with the competition. Fortunately the Group had some officials with the stronger clubs who realised that it wasn't in their interests to weaken the opposition in this way, as it could finish up with them having nobody to play. To the credit of these club officials a set of rules were formulated to operate within the group to overcome this problem. These rules which were introduced during the mid seventies still operate with the Group today, and are undoubtedly the cornerstone on which the current success of the sport in this area is based. The effect of the rules is to prohibit a club from attempting to poach a player from another Group 6 Club. The Club is not allowed to sign or field a player that played with another Group 6 Club in the previous season without the permission of his previous Club.

These rules have been firmly enforced by the Group's Management Committee over the seasons. The success of the rule is not so much that it prohibits the odd player from being allowed by his former club to change clubs for legitimate reasons, but it stops the possible mass exodus led by a couple of disgruntled players. It also has the advantage of stopping players from blackmailing their clubs for higher match payments by threatening to join a neighbouring club. Players are of course free to play with any club outside the Group, and are free to return to the Group after a season elsewhere and join any club of their choice. The Campbelltown Municipality was incorporated within the Metropolitan League after the conclusion of the 1983 competition. This left Group 6 with seven first division clubs and four second division clubs. It was decided to conduct only the one competition within the Group. The former second division clubs were invited to enter teams in the higher grade. Two did during 1984, and by 1987 all four had joined, bringing the present strength to eleven first grade clubs, all fielding reserve grade sides. The problems that have plagued the Group from when it was first formed still exist. Camden, Bowral, Moss Vale and to a lesser degree Picton and Mittagong have a much larger population base than the remaining clubs. However, this has been largely overcome in later years by the adoption of open boundaries. It is interesting to note that over all the years that Rugby League has been played in this district, every Club has missed at least one season in first grade, because of their inability to field.

The Junior League conducts competitions in the Under 16 down to Under 6 year age groups. Another problem that has always been a worry within this Group has been the limitation on our ability to properly publicise our sport. Unlike many other areas in the Country we do not have access to our own district radio or TV station. We have to rely mainly on our local press for publicity, which does give us splendid coverage. The success of the Group's initiatives over the years may be evaluated by the fact that Rugby League is still the major competitive sport within this area. During the ARL / Super League War we remained largely unaffected and this year has seen our numbers increase again. In the last 7 years our numbers have not declined, however, over the last 2 years we have seen an average increase of 15%. Group 6 is now surrounded by clubs who are engaged in the "N.R.L." Competition. St George / Illawarra, Penrith, Canberra and Western Suburbs all border on to the Group. This unique geographical situation, together with the favourable publicity we receive in the Metropolitan press can only assist in the further development of the code in this area. It is absolutely essential that this Group should maintain the autonomy it enjoys as an affiliated body of the Country Rugby League.

THE JUNIORS
Group 6 Junior Rugby League consist of 12 clubs. Robertson, Moss Vale, Bowral, Mittagong, Thirlmere-Tahmoor, Picton, Appin, Camden, The Oaks, Narellan, Mount Annan Currans Hill and Warragamba. Since 1993 there has been a 47% increase in growth of teams in the junior league and this can be attributed to the fact that there has been large scale residential development at the northern end of the group, with the main areas being Narellan, Mount Annan, Currans Hill and to a lesser extent Camden and The Oaks. There has also been an increase in population in the Thirlmere,Tahmoor area. Within that time we have admitted a new club being Mount Annan Currans Hill. Group 6 Juniors is the fastest growing area within the Country Rugby League. Even though we have Western Suburbs sitting on our North Eastern border there is very little player drain. In the main the movement of players between the 2 areas is well controlled by officials of both areas.
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I've taken the liberty to copy & paste the previous discussions to here:

Orana87
This is a fair discussion but over the Christmas period- who is the best player that you have seen play in Group 6? My memory goes back to the early 80s.
Martin Quinn, player 1992 and 1993 captain- coach of The Oaks, front rower from Canterbury, was very good.
Stan Presdee for Appin in 1994 (had just been cut from the Magpies so was a long way in front physically from the rest of the comp) had funnel webs all over him that year.
Willie Newton was another who should have played a lot of grade footy.


Jetter
Vaughan Fraser a 3 time Group 6 Player of the Year recipient is a hard feat to beat


Highlander
Olsen filipana and noel mulligan for Bowral


Scoop
As far as most influential players I've seen, would have to be Andrew Willis for Camden late 90s. Very dominant in a good team. Damien Kennedy and Travis baker just after, also outstanding players


foal
I can only go back to the early 90's. But I will say this:
Anyone that does not say Willie Newton is the best player in our group in the past two decades is either lying to themselves or has rocks in their head.
I could easily be biased and say Gary Dowse, Simon Cox or Justin Brooker it I wanted to be biased towards Picton. But, as great as they were, they're not even close to Willie.
Number 2 - Travis Baker. Harder than Uluru and very skillful.
Number 3 - Andrew Willis. Genius.


Jet9604
From what I've seen since 2000
#1= travis baker Camden
#2=willie Newton thirlmere
#3=mick Dodson goulburn
#4=matt Hamilton narellan
#5=Jamie Newton thirlmere
Couldn't leave any of them out in my opinion

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I agree with Foal, Willie Newton is the best player i've seen in Group 6. He had the most influence, and game changing ability of anyone ive ever seen out here.


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In my time playing / watching Group 6 I would say top 5 would be:

1. Willie Newton - could change a game.

2. Matt Hamilton - A massive human, extremely hard to contain.

3. Mick Dodson - Didn't stop, was the backbone of the Goulburn team

4. Travis Baker - Had the skills and could stop anyone with a well timed hit.

5. Jimmy Newton - Lightning, I think he still holds the try scoring records.

I'm sure everyone has an opinion but the quality from 2000 - 2006 was a great time to watch Group 6.
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Best teams and best players that you've seen in G6. Maybe even recollections of great individual performances.

Camden under Chicka Willis were very good and benefited from the collapse of the Magpies NRL team.
I've got to say I thought they'd beat the East Campbelltown Clayton Cup team from this season.
The City teams of 1980-1983 were right up there, mostly all imports though, few locals. Moss Vale 1982-85 were a special team, as was Picton 1985-87.
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What about Peter Jensen his raw aggression could scare a lot of players out of any game when playing against him ...
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Alright, I'm going to go one further and pick the best group 6 team I've seen. Early 90's to now:

1. Jamie Newton - Thirlmere - Narellan (Ridiculous try scoring record. Over 40 touch downs one season)
2. Justin Miller - Thirlmere - (Struggled to pick a winger here. Miller was all class his first few seasons. Made Country twice)
3. Justin Brooker - Picton (Unbelievable balance, speed, footwork and great fend. Was better at fullback)
4. Willie Newton - Thirlmere - Narellan (Most influential player and best 5/8 I've seen, also played some centre. Willis has to make the team so Willie shuffles out)
5. Dean Johnsen - Picton - Mittagong (Strongest and fastest player I ever saw at this level. 105kg wrecking ball)
6. Andrew Willis - Camden (Genius. Could do it all)
7. Peter Gentle - Camden (Great organiser and ball player. Captain-coach of the rams 97-98 at the start of their golden era)
8. Mitch Newton - Camden (100+ NRL games speaks for itself)
9. Robbie Mears - Thirlmere - Narellan (Was once nominated for the dally m hooker of the year award)
10. Matt Hamilton - Narellan - Camden (He must be the biggest rugby league player anywhere, ever. Seriously)
11. Gary Dowse - Picton (The most skillful ball-playing big forward I've seen)
12. Mick Dodson - Goulburn (Had the misfortune of playing against him. Was like trying to tackle a rock)
13. Travis Baker - Camden (Best front on defence I've seen and great attacking player)

I left Beau Scott out because he only played 18s here, but obviously he'd walk in to the centres or back row.

Honourable mentions:
Willie Monds - Picton - Amazing footwork and speed. Possibly better than Jamie Newton.
Darren Pullinger - Oakdale - Picton - Giant centre/fullback with incredible ball skills.
Nigel Daniels - Picton - Centre - Played his best footy before coming to group 6. Made country twice while with Thirroul.
Trent Anderson - Thirlmere - Oakdale - Great organiser. Ultra competitive. Nearly went for him at halfback over Gentle.
Wes Patton - Thirlmere - Very quick and skillful.
Dave Lowe - Oakdale - One of the best forwards I ever played against.
Adam Wheeler - Camden - Tall, skillful, good footwork, great offload.
Vaughan Fraser - Narellan - Was THE big man when I was a teenager watching footy.
Brian Taylor - Oakdale - Didn't see much of him, but plenty of good judges tell me he's as good a centre as there's been at this level. Fathered two pretty good ones in Jae and Nick too.
Willie McDonald - Moss Vale - Quality forward. Very tough.
Matt Brinkworth - Thirlmere - Picton. Was not far off Robbie Mears. Shame they played at the same club at the same time.
Peter Jensen - Thirlmere - Lacked consistency, but at his best was as damaging as any other forward I've seen at this level.

Of the current crop Wade Dunley, Sam Hoare, Scott Borg, Chris Young, Bart Masters would all be great players in any team, any era out here.
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MRT6... MT Annan has won the U18s back 2001 under Nigel Drury :winner: then I think 2002 or 2003 they one Won the 2nd Division under Nigel :clap: .YES The club is on the Rise..
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Dec 22 2012, 10:49 AM
What about Peter Jensen his raw aggression could scare a lot of players out of any game when playing against him ...
From the early 90s a guy call Terry Devlin that played @ Narellan Jets scared the do-do out player too.
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Dec 22 2012, 12:09 PM
Alright, I'm going to go one further and pick the best group 6 team I've seen. Early 90's to now:

1. Jamie Newton - Thirlmere - Narellan (Ridiculous try scoring record. Over 40 touch downs one season)
2. Justin Miller - Thirlmere - (Struggled to pick a winger here. Miller was all class his first few seasons. Made Country twice)
3. Justin Brooker - Picton (Unbelievable balance, speed, footwork and great fend. Was better at fullback)
4. Willie Newton - Thirlmere - Narellan (Most influential player and best 5/8 I've seen, also played some centre. Willis has to make the team so Willie shuffles out)
5. Dean Johnsen - Picton - Mittagong (Strongest and fastest player I ever saw at this level. 105kg wrecking ball)
6. Andrew Willis - Camden (Genius. Could do it all)
7. Peter Gentle - Camden (Great organiser and ball player. Captain-coach of the rams 97-98 at the start of their golden era)
8. Mitch Newton - Camden (100+ NRL games speaks for itself)
9. Robbie Mears - Thirlmere - Narellan (Was once nominated for the dally m hooker of the year award)
10. Matt Hamilton - Narellan - Camden (He must be the biggest rugby league player anywhere, ever. Seriously)
11. Gary Dowse - Picton (The most skillful ball-playing big forward I've seen)
12. Mick Dodson - Goulburn (Had the misfortune of playing against him. Was like trying to tackle a rock)
13. Travis Baker - Camden (Best front on defence I've seen and great attacking player)

I left Beau Scott out because he only played 18s here, but obviously he'd walk in to the centres or back row.

Honourable mentions:
Willie Monds - Picton - Amazing footwork and speed. Possibly better than Jamie Newton.
Darren Pullinger - Oakdale - Picton - Giant centre/fullback with incredible ball skills.
Nigel Daniels - Picton - Centre - Played his best footy before coming to group 6. Made country twice while with Thirroul.
Trent Anderson - Thirlmere - Oakdale - Great organiser. Ultra competitive. Nearly went for him at halfback over Gentle.
Wes Patton - Thirlmere - Very quick and skillful.
Dave Lowe - Oakdale - One of the best forwards I ever played against.
Adam Wheeler - Camden - Tall, skillful, good footwork, great offload.
Vaughan Fraser - Narellan - Was THE big man when I was a teenager watching footy.
Brian Taylor - Oakdale - Didn't see much of him, but plenty of good judges tell me he's as good a centre as there's been at this level. Fathered two pretty good ones in Jae and Nick too.
Willie McDonald - Moss Vale - Quality forward. Very tough.
Matt Brinkworth - Thirlmere - Picton. Was not far off Robbie Mears. Shame they played at the same club at the same time.
Peter Jensen - Thirlmere - Lacked consistency, but at his best was as damaging as any other forward I've seen at this level.

Of the current crop Wade Dunley, Sam Hoare, Scott Borg, Chris Young, Bart Masters would all be great players in any team, any era out here.
Good side, can't say you any wrong there, i can't remember seeing the 7.
I did see Ando, and he was good, and he was just a man that the opposition wanted to kill, goal kicker as well.
I think Ronny Jones in the early 2000's particularly when he was at The Oaks and Narellan, it seemed like everything he did turned up trumps.
Honorable mentions though, i think there are better hookers
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Some over-rated players here. Without sounding too nasty, Johnson, Trent, Wheeler, Brinky, Gentle, Pullo, Jensen, Quinn, don't really belong in this side. Filipaina did very little for Bowral.
The best player IMO has been Willis, followed by Taylor.
The best pure front rowers in the group have been, Bryan Millthorpe, John Bourke, Steve Stonham, Robert Stone and big Hammo. Take your pick.
Enough to scare the do-do out of any opposition.

Again, I don't mean to be critical, they were good players alright, just not quite in the same league.
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Also, where is Graham Tutt (Bowral/ Robbo),and Alsake Misa (Thirlmere) ?
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Asake Misa would easily sit on the bench of the team nominated by foal, was quick for a big guy and could hit.
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And Tutty? has to be in any team.
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