Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]

WE WANT A FAIR GO FOR OUR AREA, MORE OPPORTUNITIES AND MORE THAN 4 NRL GAMES AT CAMPBELLTOWN STADIUM

Want to talk all things Wests? Click here for our Facebook Page
Locked Topic
Season 2014
Topic Started: Nov 12 2013, 06:21 PM (126,331 Views)
KIDROK
Member Avatar
Harold Matthews
[ *  * ]
Footyfanatic14
Dec 18 2013, 01:30 PM
foal
Dec 18 2013, 12:59 PM
It's a big shame for Appin for sure. Especially considering a number of the players involved went to Thirmere from Appin originally.
Surely not seeing as these player only left appin to play first grade
Load of crock half didn't even play first grade
Gavin graham
Jay omullaine
Mitch Riley
Aaron Galloway
Lee pervert
Chris hales
Tommy Browne
David Browne
Robert Lewis
Mathew gibbon
Ross Gardner All appin players or come to Thirlmere as mates from appin blokes
and only went there coz they had no club now where to for them?
Lost to the games politics
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Hornet
Park Footy
[ * ]
pastrami
Dec 17 2013, 11:56 AM
Hornet
Dec 16 2013, 09:05 PM
pastrami
Dec 16 2013, 12:31 PM
Footyfanatic14
Dec 16 2013, 09:53 AM
Scoop
Dec 15 2013, 05:55 PM
Clubs have to realise that you can't play the system. You have to be transparent and honest about individual players point simple as that. Its literally a 5 second exercise for anyone to check a players history. Clubs that choose to be relaxed with properly heading their cattle will get found out. Did wonder how jets managed their points given a 95% player difference from 2012 in first grade.
I seen the jets play oakdale in that semi final last year and could only manage to count 3 possibly 4 local juniors a mystery to everyone I think I'm sure they will be under the scope this year a bit seeing as other issues have been sorted .. Thirlmere will be relying on this meeting tonight on which players will stay and go for next year.
Lets be fair dinkum, the juniors in this comp aren't a scratch on Wests Juniors, nor some other country areas. So those juniors comoing through aren't the cream of the crop, whereas those 'imported' are top line players. Most of the juniors coming through will sit in reggies and U18s.

A decent player will have a crack at NYC, NSW Cup and RMC and the quality players in Group 6 this year ie Lett, Gallant etc have been there and are coming BACK down to CRL Group 6 level. Why do clubs chase them? Cause they are quality players who win games and comps and every club wants them. Without them you snooze and you lose.

I beg to differ Pastrami, just this year alone 17 of the 19 Group 6 under 15 reps this year are in the Harold Matts program for next season, as for other country areas, you've got to be kidding yourself, do your homework before making a statement like that again. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Sorry to generalise Hornet but that is the future Matts squad, that hasn't been picked yet, and that is 17 in a train on squad of 64 (that may have been narrowed down by now). In the past Group 6 have only had a sprinkling of representation in the Wests junior rep squads, who have traditionally been fairly strong up against other districts. When the majority of the Wests rep teams are from Group 6 I will change my opinion. :yeah

I am speaking purely on percentages, 15 of the 18 that tried out last year made either Wests, Swsas or other Nrl sides in Matts and the same will happen this year, half of the Wests Matts squad for 2013 were Group 6 players. So speaking purely on percentages, Group 6 who have half the amount of players as Wests, are a huge scratch on Wests Juniors. Close to a third of the 54 not 64 train on squad this year are from out of area, Parramatta, Bulldogs, Penrith, Illawarra.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Footyfanatic14
Harold Matthews
[ *  * ]
KIDROK
Dec 18 2013, 02:05 PM
Footyfanatic14
Dec 18 2013, 01:30 PM
foal
Dec 18 2013, 12:59 PM
It's a big shame for Appin for sure. Especially considering a number of the players involved went to Thirmere from Appin originally.
Surely not seeing as these player only left appin to play first grade
Load of crock half didn't even play first grade
Gavin graham
Jay omullaine
Mitch Riley
Aaron Galloway
Lee pervert
Chris hales
Tommy Browne
David Browne
Robert Lewis
Mathew gibbon
Ross Gardner All appin players or come to Thirlmere as mates from appin blokes
and only went there coz they had no club now where to for them?
Lost to the games politics
The group needs to stand in here and overrule and make the right call
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
tc6_11
Member Avatar
NRL
[ *  *  *  * ]
Footyfanatic14
Dec 18 2013, 06:01 PM
KIDROK
Dec 18 2013, 02:05 PM
Footyfanatic14
Dec 18 2013, 01:30 PM
foal
Dec 18 2013, 12:59 PM
It's a big shame for Appin for sure. Especially considering a number of the players involved went to Thirmere from Appin originally.
Surely not seeing as these player only left appin to play first grade
Load of crock half didn't even play first grade
Gavin graham
Jay omullaine
Mitch Riley
Aaron Galloway
Lee pervert
Chris hales
Tommy Browne
David Browne
Robert Lewis
Mathew gibbon
Ross Gardner All appin players or come to Thirlmere as mates from appin blokes
and only went there coz they had no club now where to for them?
Lost to the games politics
The group needs to stand in here and overrule and make the right call
I think the group enforced this rule? Is that correct?
Thirlmere treading on dangerous ground though, other clubs may do the same to them now.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
cockpit000
SG Ball
[ *  * ]
tc6_11
Dec 19 2013, 05:20 AM
Footyfanatic14
Dec 18 2013, 06:01 PM
KIDROK
Dec 18 2013, 02:05 PM
Footyfanatic14
Dec 18 2013, 01:30 PM
foal
Dec 18 2013, 12:59 PM
It's a big shame for Appin for sure. Especially considering a number of the players involved went to Thirmere from Appin originally.
Surely not seeing as these player only left appin to play first grade
Load of crock half didn't even play first grade
Gavin graham
Jay omullaine
Mitch Riley
Aaron Galloway
Lee pervert
Chris hales
Tommy Browne
David Browne
Robert Lewis
Mathew gibbon
Ross Gardner All appin players or come to Thirlmere as mates from appin blokes
and only went there coz they had no club now where to for them?
Lost to the games politics
The group needs to stand in here and overrule and make the right call
I think the group enforced this rule? Is that correct?
Thirlmere treading on dangerous ground though, other clubs may do the same to them now.
Correct, thirlmere used the bi-law to withhold clearances by saying they would not be able to field teams next year and then the group supported them. Even though these players claim they will not return to play for us.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Footyfanatic14
Harold Matthews
[ *  * ]
cockpit000
Dec 19 2013, 10:16 AM
tc6_11
Dec 19 2013, 05:20 AM
Footyfanatic14
Dec 18 2013, 06:01 PM
KIDROK
Dec 18 2013, 02:05 PM
Footyfanatic14
Dec 18 2013, 01:30 PM
foal
Dec 18 2013, 12:59 PM
It's a big shame for Appin for sure. Especially considering a number of the players involved went to Thirmere from Appin originally.
Surely not seeing as these player only left appin to play first grade
Load of crock half didn't even play first grade
Gavin graham
Jay omullaine
Mitch Riley
Aaron Galloway
Lee pervert
Chris hales
Tommy Browne
David Browne
Robert Lewis
Mathew gibbon
Ross Gardner All appin players or come to Thirlmere as mates from appin blokes
and only went there coz they had no club now where to for them?
Lost to the games politics
The group needs to stand in here and overrule and make the right call
I think the group enforced this rule? Is that correct?
Thirlmere treading on dangerous ground though, other clubs may do the same to them now.
Correct, thirlmere used the bi-law to withhold clearances by saying they would not be able to field teams next year and then the group supported them. Even though these players claim they will not return to play for us.
So really alls we get from this is no appin the oaks weakened and thirlmere also weakened 5 good teams instead of potentially 7 or 8
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Swamprat
Member Avatar
Harold Matthews
[ *  * ]
Footyfanatic14
Dec 19 2013, 11:17 AM
cockpit000
Dec 19 2013, 10:16 AM
tc6_11
Dec 19 2013, 05:20 AM
Footyfanatic14
Dec 18 2013, 06:01 PM
KIDROK
Dec 18 2013, 02:05 PM
Footyfanatic14
Dec 18 2013, 01:30 PM
foal
Dec 18 2013, 12:59 PM
It's a big shame for Appin for sure. Especially considering a number of the players involved went to Thirmere from Appin originally.
Surely not seeing as these player only left appin to play first grade
Load of crock half didn't even play first grade
Gavin graham
Jay omullaine
Mitch Riley
Aaron Galloway
Lee pervert
Chris hales
Tommy Browne
David Browne
Robert Lewis
Mathew gibbon
Ross Gardner All appin players or come to Thirlmere as mates from appin blokes
and only went there coz they had no club now where to for them?
Lost to the games politics
The group needs to stand in here and overrule and make the right call
I think the group enforced this rule? Is that correct?
Thirlmere treading on dangerous ground though, other clubs may do the same to them now.
Correct, thirlmere used the bi-law to withhold clearances by saying they would not be able to field teams next year and then the group supported them. Even though these players claim they will not return to play for us.
So really alls we get from this is no appin the oaks weakened and thirlmere also weakened 5 good teams instead of potentially 7 or 8
Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly does the bylaw state or prohibit?
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
lovinfooty
Member Avatar
NYC U20's
[ *  * ]
Any more confirmed signings at this stage?

Has the Group stepped in as yet to allow some of the players (ex-Appin) releases from Thirlmere as yet or is it still locked up?
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
disco stu
Member Avatar
Country Origin
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
ok some news from around the traps,

-Oakdale are looking to field a u18s side first time in around 7 years they have done so.
- Bargo have released their playing strip for 2014

Posted Image
- Picton have released their home & away strips for 2013.
Posted Image
Posted Image
- Camden Have announced their coaches for the 2014 season
First Grade: Mitch Newton
Reserve Grade: Jason Stevens
U18's: Scott Davey

- Talking about Camden they are making some improvements around Kirkham Park & clubhouse, replacing the old fence and upgrading to an electronic scoreboard.

Posted Image

Edited by disco stu, Jan 7 2014, 02:16 PM.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
partial me
Club Footy
[ * ]


Put original comment in here last year and dont think much changed my mind on where Appin would be again. Paul Jarvis was actually named as the reserve grade coach at Appin last year and now he has gone elsewhere. This will be a monumental uphill task for those at the helm at Appin, I'll say again dont think it will happen unfortunately.
This all gets back to group 6 administration, and there desire to push smaller clubs too a point where they break. Appin, Macarthur Bulls etc . The group just needs to handle who plays where and to keep the small clubs honest in who they actually allow to register in those lower division teams. When ex Nrl, state cup or first grade players are cleared to play for a second division team in the first place, other clubs start whingeing about it but all in all the group cant cry foul
as they where the ones to approve the bloody player in the first place. All comps need players and whatever level the group should encourage numbers to stay. They dont mind taking the money from the players to pay themselves, do they.

:clap: Original post from 2013 Group 6 thread posted 3/10/2013
The Group 6 post-season forum will take place on October 13 from 10am to 2pm at Bargo Sports Club. Group 6 referees, presidents, secretaries and Group 6 management will review the season and approve the 2014 senior calendar. The 2013 Group 6 Junior Rugby League equivalent will take be 10am-2pm on October 19 at Picton Bowling Club.
I note that the Appin club is sending 3 representatives to the forum- fair to say Wonson Park will be seeing 1st Grade Rugby League next season, first time since 1996?
The Appin club have sent representatives to the forums every year, I believe 2 were there last year.
Their was plenty of talking about what can be, but they fell extremely short of ever getting there. Unless a lot has changed since last year, even with the gossip about thirlmere players and coach alike going to Appin, I'll be extremely surprised whether they can get the sponsorship needed to go to 1st grade etc. A running committee is needed, in which Appin have never had.
There has also been talk about debono from collies rallying to bring teams to Appin but only if certain persons are not there.
I hope for the club they can really put something together, but more than likely, will have to be satisfied with 2nd's and 18's for the moment and group 6 will just have to support that, unlike a couple of years ago when they pushed Appin to oblivion of non competition by forcing them out of 2nd's, saying they must move to 1st grade 2012, in which didn't happen.
Small clubs like Appin must be in the competition and if it means 2nd's for a while the group and other clubs should support that.
:cheers:
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
JGT
Member Avatar
SG Ball
[ *  * ]
Anyone heard from Mossvale? Rusty? What's the latest at Mossvale mate?
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Orana87
Member Avatar
NSW Cup
[ *  *  * ]
partial me
Jan 7 2014, 04:32 PM

Put original comment in here last year and dont think much changed my mind on where Appin would be again. Paul Jarvis was actually named as the reserve grade coach at Appin last year and now he has gone elsewhere. This will be a monumental uphill task for those at the helm at Appin, I'll say again dont think it will happen unfortunately.
This all gets back to group 6 administration, and there desire to push smaller clubs too a point where they break. Appin, Macarthur Bulls etc . The group just needs to handle who plays where and to keep the small clubs honest in who they actually allow to register in those lower division teams. When ex Nrl, state cup or first grade players are cleared to play for a second division team in the first place, other clubs start whingeing about it but all in all the group cant cry foul
as they where the ones to approve the bloody player in the first place. All comps need players and whatever level the group should encourage numbers to stay. They dont mind taking the money from the players to pay themselves, do they.

:clap: Original post from 2013 Group 6 thread posted 3/10/2013
The Group 6 post-season forum will take place on October 13 from 10am to 2pm at Bargo Sports Club. Group 6 referees, presidents, secretaries and Group 6 management will review the season and approve the 2014 senior calendar. The 2013 Group 6 Junior Rugby League equivalent will take be 10am-2pm on October 19 at Picton Bowling Club.
I note that the Appin club is sending 3 representatives to the forum- fair to say Wonson Park will be seeing 1st Grade Rugby League next season, first time since 1996?
The Appin club have sent representatives to the forums every year, I believe 2 were there last year.
Their was plenty of talking about what can be, but they fell extremely short of ever getting there. Unless a lot has changed since last year, even with the gossip about thirlmere players and coach alike going to Appin, I'll be extremely surprised whether they can get the sponsorship needed to go to 1st grade etc. A running committee is needed, in which Appin have never had.
There has also been talk about debono from collies rallying to bring teams to Appin but only if certain persons are not there.
I hope for the club they can really put something together, but more than likely, will have to be satisfied with 2nd's and 18's for the moment and group 6 will just have to support that, unlike a couple of years ago when they pushed Appin to oblivion of non competition by forcing them out of 2nd's, saying they must move to 1st grade 2012, in which didn't happen.
Small clubs like Appin must be in the competition and if it means 2nd's for a while the group and other clubs should support that.
:cheers:
Partial, I'd agree & reiterate my opinion on this that Appin 92-96 were great for G6, but were really a Campbelltown team in disguise. Appin had no player base and contributed no home grown products to that club. It's all easy to say De Bono this, Collies that... But the fact is we are talking kids here, not established 1st Grade talent like a Ben Isaia, Adam 'Roycey' Webster or Butch Keys that went there in 1992 & underpinned Appin. They were simply a Campbelltown Warriors senior club playing very successfully at Appin, after they'd conquered the WSDJRL A Grade between 1988- 91.

Campbelltown is an elderly area now, nowhere near as League fanatical anymore as when Bill Bowling, a great local Rugby League man, took U/18s, Reserve Grade & 1st Grade there in 1992.
There aren't any senior teams in Campbelltown, like the Campbelltown Warriors were in 91-92, where an entire 3 grade club can just transfer across to Appin.

With the housing developments though, Appin will soon be joined to Campbelltown and it's imperative that League continues in what will be Wollondilly's first urban area. They will eventually get a 1st Grade team. Should 1st Grade be beyond them in 2014, they must be allowed to make a highly competitive 2nd Division & U/18 team.
Edited by Orana87, Jan 8 2014, 07:35 PM.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
moody
NYC U20's
[ *  * ]
Why did you delete my comments? I didn't breach any of the rules?
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
rustynail
Member Avatar
Harold Matthews
[ *  * ]
JGT
Jan 7 2014, 07:19 PM
Anyone heard from Mossvale? Rusty? What's the latest at Mossvale mate?
Mossy struggling. No senior committee but juniors have taken over running of 18's and grade for this season as a stop gap measure. I havent heard anything for a while but grade side will be 2nd Division. 18's will have a fairly strong side and juniors are on the up. So a slow build around these juniors over the next 3-4 years would be the best option. Similar to what we did 10years ago around the likes of Esky, Robbie Noble, Damian Barton & co
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Black&White
Member Avatar
NRL
[ *  *  *  * ]
rustynail
Jan 11 2014, 08:16 AM
JGT
Jan 7 2014, 07:19 PM
Anyone heard from Mossvale? Rusty? What's the latest at Mossvale mate?
Mossy struggling. No senior committee but juniors have taken over running of 18's and grade for this season as a stop gap measure. I havent heard anything for a while but grade side will be 2nd Division. 18's will have a fairly strong side and juniors are on the up. So a slow build around these juniors over the next 3-4 years would be the best option. Similar to what we did 10years ago around the likes of Esky, Robbie Noble, Damian Barton & co
Matt Burke & his committee have done a great job reinvigorating Mossy juniors over the last couple of years. I think they will be an asset to the seniors as well. These kids will flow through and regrow that club over the next few years.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
cockpit000
SG Ball
[ *  * ]
So if mossy are out and appin don't field a team in first grade what will the group do with fixturing? Will some teams play each other 3 times or will they just reduce the rounds in the season? Does anyone know what will happen?
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Black&White
Member Avatar
NRL
[ *  *  *  * ]
Posted Image
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
cockpit000
SG Ball
[ *  * ]
Just found out players seeking releases to Appin and The Oaks from Thirlmere have been granted.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Footyfanatic14
Harold Matthews
[ *  * ]
cockpit000
Jan 20 2014, 12:36 PM
Just found out players seeking releases to Appin and The Oaks from Thirlmere have been granted.
This is good news for the competition I'm
Hearing the oaks and city have added some qaulity to there rosters maybe two teams that might shock a few people especially city seeing there gradual rise over the past few season
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
foal
Member Avatar
NYC U20's
[ *  * ]
Footyfanatic14
Jan 20 2014, 02:41 PM
cockpit000
Jan 20 2014, 12:36 PM
Just found out players seeking releases to Appin and The Oaks from Thirlmere have been granted.
This is good news for the competition I'm
Hearing the oaks and city have added some qaulity to there rosters maybe two teams that might shock a few people especially city seeing there gradual rise over the past few season
I think if City have added a couple quality players no one will be shocked to see them heavily involved in September. As you said, they've been steadily improving so a couple class acts will make a huge difference.
And yeah, I heard the Oaks signed all 4 Brasington brothers. If it's correct that Thirlmere are now granting releases that's a huge boost for the tigers. I know the 2 younger brothers get huge wraps, but I think a lot of people have either forgotten or just never knew how good the oldest brother Mark is. He hasn't played for a couple years but in 09-10 he was the best centre getting around. If he's half that good again, watch him go. I know Picton would love to have him again.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · CRL Group 6 · Next Topic »
Locked Topic


www.wests.co.nr is an unofficial forum run by volunteer Rugby League Supporters
Posts, messages, views, expressions or opinions on this forum DO NOT represent the official view of ANY Football Club.

Free Domains Hosting at .co.nr