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Aug 6 2015, 02:56 PM
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The easts side you have now is a shadow of the side u had in g6. Look at ur narellan imports baker scored a million tries in syd shield wasn't top try scorer in g6. The other was a fringe first grader now starting prop in syd shield Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Ben Baker leading try scorer in 2009, 2010, 2011, and joint winner with our player Will Dreeves in 2012, not a bad effort when he played for Narellan that really wasn't a force in the competition. Ben has been an asset for the Eagles this year, he hasn't been sin binned or sent off so it just shows putting Ben in the right culture has been great fro him this year.
And you must be talking about Guy Thompson, well hasn't this guy come forward in leaps and bounds, most weeks plays 80 minutes and his work rate is awesome, I just don't think Narellan and the Coaching staff knew how to get the best out of this player, no different to Blake Austin now at Canberra!
And finally to say that our Sydney Shield team isn't anything close to what we had in 2012 is totally wrong, our side this year is just as much as quality as last year, and 2012, this year we have 4 players in our Backline that have been leading try scorers in their protective competitions at the time, Criag Moustakas, Amanono Tovio, Sean Connor and Ben Baker. And our front row would match Picton and Camden easy with Mason Talolua, 80 minute front rower, and Shane Lologafol, tough as nails, our back row is that strong, Cody Timoti, Jarryd Eggleton, and Fusi Toutai, we have John Da Silva in hooker, this sides as classy as past teams and yes I think these guys can go back to back and a tougher competition!
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Aug 6 2015, 07:52 PM
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It is an interesting debate. My honest (and obviously biased) opinion: Picton and Camden would go ok in Ron Massey Cup, let alone Shield.
I really don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that. For example Picton are chock full of players that have played at least one level higher than RMC: Lett (NRL), Taylor, Thompson, Tupou, Twist, (Cup), Matthews, Dengate (20's) Mariner (20's - walked away from Roosters top 25 this year), McIlveney has played RMC. Then look at the rest and they are all among the best players in their position in the comp: Vale, Peters, Whitey, Provost, Kenny, Kiel Shephard.
Camden is similar in terms of experience at a higher level: Cashmere, Dean Collis, Innosesio, Borgy, Goulton, you can pretty much go through their whole team.
Anyway, it's just fantasy talk. It'll never actually happen. The only way it might would be as a pre-season thing. I was at a Coal league game (Thirroul v Helensburgh) a month or so back talking with Chris Bannerman from the Illawarra rugby league and he is very keen to get an expanded pre-season comp going with Illawarra, Group 6, group 7 etc. Might as well throw Shield teams in as well. Would be a good concept.
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Aug 6 2015, 08:30 PM
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The easts side you have now is a shadow of the side u had in g6. Look at ur narellan imports baker scored a million tries in syd shield wasn't top try scorer in g6. The other was a fringe first grader now starting prop in syd shield
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Ben Baker leading try scorer in 2009, 2010, 2011, and joint winner with our player Will Dreeves in 2012, not a bad effort when he played for Narellan that really wasn't a force in the competition. Ben has been an asset for the Eagles this year, he hasn't been sin binned or sent off so it just shows putting Ben in the right culture has been great fro him this year. And you must be talking about Guy Thompson, well hasn't this guy come forward in leaps and bounds, most weeks plays 80 minutes and his work rate is awesome, I just don't think Narellan and the Coaching staff knew how to get the best out of this player, no different to Blake Austin now at Canberra! And finally to say that our Sydney Shield team isn't anything close to what we had in 2012 is totally wrong, our side this year is just as much as quality as last year, and 2012, this year we have 4 players in our Backline that have been leading try scorers in their protective competitions at the time, Criag Moustakas, Amanono Tovio, Sean Connor and Ben Baker. And our front row would match Picton and Camden easy with Mason Talolua, 80 minute front rower, and Shane Lologafol, tough as nails, our back row is that strong, Cody Timoti, Jarryd Eggleton, and Fusi Toutai, we have John Da Silva in hooker, this sides as classy as past teams and yes I think these guys can go back to back and a tougher competition! Ur kidding yourself, I wouldn't expect any less from the king of spin. EAGLES WILL NOT WIN IT AGAIN! no hoare or Dunley to carry you anymore probly y your just in the 8. Talk is cheap mr draper thought by now ud have realised just because u say it on here it doesnt make it so. But yet again we find you trolling g6 forums to tell us how much better the eagles are.
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Aug 6 2015, 11:42 PM
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The easts side you have now is a shadow of the side u had in g6. Look at ur narellan imports baker scored a million tries in syd shield wasn't top try scorer in g6. The other was a fringe first grader now starting prop in syd shield
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Ben Baker leading try scorer in 2009, 2010, 2011, and joint winner with our player Will Dreeves in 2012, not a bad effort when he played for Narellan that really wasn't a force in the competition. Ben has been an asset for the Eagles this year, he hasn't been sin binned or sent off so it just shows putting Ben in the right culture has been great fro him this year. And you must be talking about Guy Thompson, well hasn't this guy come forward in leaps and bounds, most weeks plays 80 minutes and his work rate is awesome, I just don't think Narellan and the Coaching staff knew how to get the best out of this player, no different to Blake Austin now at Canberra! And finally to say that our Sydney Shield team isn't anything close to what we had in 2012 is totally wrong, our side this year is just as much as quality as last year, and 2012, this year we have 4 players in our Backline that have been leading try scorers in their protective competitions at the time, Criag Moustakas, Amanono Tovio, Sean Connor and Ben Baker. And our front row would match Picton and Camden easy with Mason Talolua, 80 minute front rower, and Shane Lologafol, tough as nails, our back row is that strong, Cody Timoti, Jarryd Eggleton, and Fusi Toutai, we have John Da Silva in hooker, this sides as classy as past teams and yes I think these guys can go back to back and a tougher competition!
Ur kidding yourself, I wouldn't expect any less from the king of spin. EAGLES WILL NOT WIN IT AGAIN! no hoare or Dunley to carry you anymore probly y your just in the 8. Talk is cheap mr draper thought by now ud have realised just because u say it on here it doesnt make it so. But yet again we find you trolling g6 forums to tell us how much better the eagles are. And you said we wouldn't win last year, hahahaha
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Aug 7 2015, 07:21 AM
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It is an interesting debate. My honest (and obviously biased) opinion: Picton and Camden would go ok in Ron Massey Cup, let alone Shield.
I really don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that. For example Picton are chock full of players that have played at least one level higher than RMC: Lett (NRL), Taylor, Thompson, Tupou, Twist, (Cup), Matthews, Dengate (20's) Mariner (20's - walked away from Roosters top 25 this year), McIlveney has played RMC. Then look at the rest and they are all among the best players in their position in the comp: Vale, Peters, Whitey, Provost, Kenny, Kiel Shephard.
Camden is similar in terms of experience at a higher level: Cashmere, Dean Collis, Innosesio, Borgy, Goulton, you can pretty much go through their whole team.
Anyway, it's just fantasy talk. It'll never actually happen. The only way it might would be as a pre-season thing. I was at a Coal league game (Thirroul v Helensburgh) a month or so back talking with Chris Bannerman from the Illawarra rugby league and he is very keen to get an expanded pre-season comp going with Illawarra, Group 6, group 7 etc. Might as well throw Shield teams in as well. Would be a good concept. Forget the Coal league Frenchy. I've been speaking to a lot of people about having some foresight and initiative. We are the best positioned CRL group to Sydney. Run our own pre-season comp, invite clubs to participate, the Eagles clearly want to be recognised by everyone in Group 6 so they'd love to play in it. Put the money on the table and the interest will develop.
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Aug 7 2015, 12:50 PM
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It is an interesting debate. My honest (and obviously biased) opinion: Picton and Camden would go ok in Ron Massey Cup, let alone Shield.
I really don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that. For example Picton are chock full of players that have played at least one level higher than RMC: Lett (NRL), Taylor, Thompson, Tupou, Twist, (Cup), Matthews, Dengate (20's) Mariner (20's - walked away from Roosters top 25 this year), McIlveney has played RMC. Then look at the rest and they are all among the best players in their position in the comp: Vale, Peters, Whitey, Provost, Kenny, Kiel Shephard.
Camden is similar in terms of experience at a higher level: Cashmere, Dean Collis, Innosesio, Borgy, Goulton, you can pretty much go through their whole team.
Anyway, it's just fantasy talk. It'll never actually happen. The only way it might would be as a pre-season thing. I was at a Coal league game (Thirroul v Helensburgh) a month or so back talking with Chris Bannerman from the Illawarra rugby league and he is very keen to get an expanded pre-season comp going with Illawarra, Group 6, group 7 etc. Might as well throw Shield teams in as well. Would be a good concept. It sounds capable in theory, but when you look at what your up against its a lot harder, RMC and we should know we have played at that level, but what we found is our top 17 could match it for a game here and there, but the tough hit out week in and week out for 25 Rounds takes a toll on the players, clubs like Wenty and Mounties have unlimited depth that is hard to compete with, even in Sydney Shield 25 Rounds of tough footy is hard to keep the consistency.
So yes Picton and Camden may have players at that level, but to compete all year may be difficult. Last year and this year in Sydney Shield we have been rocked by injuries and struggled at times, but we look at getting a full squad back by semis, and give the competition another crack
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Aug 7 2015, 01:06 PM
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It is an interesting debate. My honest (and obviously biased) opinion: Picton and Camden would go ok in Ron Massey Cup, let alone Shield.
I really don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that. For example Picton are chock full of players that have played at least one level higher than RMC: Lett (NRL), Taylor, Thompson, Tupou, Twist, (Cup), Matthews, Dengate (20's) Mariner (20's - walked away from Roosters top 25 this year), McIlveney has played RMC. Then look at the rest and they are all among the best players in their position in the comp: Vale, Peters, Whitey, Provost, Kenny, Kiel Shephard.
Camden is similar in terms of experience at a higher level: Cashmere, Dean Collis, Innosesio, Borgy, Goulton, you can pretty much go through their whole team.
Anyway, it's just fantasy talk. It'll never actually happen. The only way it might would be as a pre-season thing. I was at a Coal league game (Thirroul v Helensburgh) a month or so back talking with Chris Bannerman from the Illawarra rugby league and he is very keen to get an expanded pre-season comp going with Illawarra, Group 6, group 7 etc. Might as well throw Shield teams in as well. Would be a good concept.
Forget the Coal league Frenchy. I've been speaking to a lot of people about having some foresight and initiative. We are the best positioned CRL group to Sydney. Run our own pre-season comp, invite clubs to participate, the Eagles clearly want to be recognised by everyone in Group 6 so they'd love to play in it. Put the money on the table and the interest will develop. Group 6 preseason is a waste of time. Something has to change
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Aug 7 2015, 06:55 PM
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The easts side you have now is a shadow of the side u had in g6. Look at ur narellan imports baker scored a million tries in syd shield wasn't top try scorer in g6. The other was a fringe first grader now starting prop in syd shield Shield comp very average think easts still bitter they got kicked out of comp there main draw card is baker your kidding
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Aug 7 2015, 07:31 PM
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The easts side you have now is a shadow of the side u had in g6. Look at ur narellan imports baker scored a million tries in syd shield wasn't top try scorer in g6. The other was a fringe first grader now starting prop in syd shield
Shield comp very average think easts still bitter they got kicked out of comp there main draw card is baker your kidding That's your opinion, I've seen and been involved in both comps and my opinion, I would say Sydney Shield is way better and stronger, sorry to say a two horse race doesn't compare to 13 teams that can still make the top eight
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Aug 7 2015, 10:45 PM
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The easts side you have now is a shadow of the side u had in g6. Look at ur narellan imports baker scored a million tries in syd shield wasn't top try scorer in g6. The other was a fringe first grader now starting prop in syd shield
Shield comp very average think easts still bitter they got kicked out of comp there main draw card is baker your kidding
That's your opinion, I've seen and been involved in both comps and my opinion, I would say Sydney Shield is way better and stronger, sorry to say a two horse race doesn't compare to 13 teams that can still make the top eight No doubt the comp is tighter only 3 teams can win the EPL, but i wouldn't say the ALeague is a better Comp coz its closer
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It is an interesting debate. My honest (and obviously biased) opinion: Picton and Camden would go ok in Ron Massey Cup, let alone Shield.
I really don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that. For example Picton are chock full of players that have played at least one level higher than RMC: Lett (NRL), Taylor, Thompson, Tupou, Twist, (Cup), Matthews, Dengate (20's) Mariner (20's - walked away from Roosters top 25 this year), McIlveney has played RMC. Then look at the rest and they are all among the best players in their position in the comp: Vale, Peters, Whitey, Provost, Kenny, Kiel Shephard.
Camden is similar in terms of experience at a higher level: Cashmere, Dean Collis, Innosesio, Borgy, Goulton, you can pretty much go through their whole team.
Anyway, it's just fantasy talk. It'll never actually happen. The only way it might would be as a pre-season thing. I was at a Coal league game (Thirroul v Helensburgh) a month or so back talking with Chris Bannerman from the Illawarra rugby league and he is very keen to get an expanded pre-season comp going with Illawarra, Group 6, group 7 etc. Might as well throw Shield teams in as well. Would be a good concept. Having watched RMC and its antecedent comps for more than 20 years, I think Picton and Camden would be very welcome additions to the RMC but I would also think that their loyalty to the Group 6 would ensure that it would never happen and that is unfortunate.
With Asquith defecting to RMC/SS and Belrose to Sydney Shield the once very strong Manly comp started to fall apart with the remaining strong sides playing every 3 or 4 weeks as the weaker clubs which had been in 2nd division simply forfeited rather than be flogged. This was the genesis of the formation of Peninsula Seagulls.
I suppose that if 2 sides continually dominated a local comp they might see the value in entering a larger comp with more viable teams. The RMC and SS both have a points system which effect considerations. I have never seen any value in this approach but it appears that a weaker comp that is more even is considered desirable.
The SS has a few ex 1st graders and Alex Chan finished his career in this grade. I would estimate that up to 70 players have appeared in both NSW Cup and RMC this year and there would be more than a dozen that have appeared in NSW Cup and SS this year.
The number of players alternating between NYC and SS is large , particularly at Wests, Auburn, Windsor and Guildford. I would say that only Windsor among those 4 teams can win the SS. 23 players from Wests Tigers have spent significant time split evenly between RMC and SS this year and the Magpies are struggling in both grades.
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Aug 10 2015, 07:39 PM
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Orana you seem to be very good on The Group history.could you please tell me last time a team got a century put in them. Excluding your 1st grade on Sunday that is.
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Orana you seem to be very good on The Group history.could you please tell me last time a team got a century put in them. Excluding your 1st grade on Sunday that is. I vaguely remember The Oaks getting beat in 2000, it was the year after they made the GF. I think it was Camden that got them Did anyone beat Ingleburn by 100 in the combined comp?
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Aug 10 2015, 10:16 PM
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Orana you seem to be very good on The Group history.could you please tell me last time a team got a century put in them. Excluding your 1st grade on Sunday that is.
I vaguely remember The Oaks getting beat in 2000, it was the year after they made the GF. I think it was Camden that got them Did anyone beat Ingleburn by 100 in the combined comp? Not too sure. We'll take our medicine though. We played when others wouldn't. City has never forfeited a 1st Grade fixture in 82 seasons of Group 6 history, or dropped out of 1st Grade, or played 2nd Division. We got beat 96-2 by Camden in 1954, under similar injury circumstances. Everyone gets their turn in the penthouse and in the basement. We're a 1st Grade Club, and it's our responsibility to get up to Picton and Camden's level; not to drag them down.
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Orana you seem to be very good on The Group history.could you please tell me last time a team got a century put in them. Excluding your 1st grade on Sunday that is.
I vaguely remember The Oaks getting beat in 2000, it was the year after they made the GF. I think it was Camden that got them Did anyone beat Ingleburn by 100 in the combined comp?
Not too sure. We'll take our medicine though. We played when others wouldn't. City has never forfeited a 1st Grade fixture in 82 seasons of Group 6 history, or dropped out of 1st Grade, or played 2nd Division. We got beat 96-2 by Camden in 1954, under similar injury circumstances. Everyone gets their turn in the penthouse and in the basement. We're a 1st Grade Club, and it's our responsibility to get up to Picton and Camden's level; not to drag them down. Good on you Orana an attitude (if not result) your club can be proud of. Shame a couple of other joints don't have the same attitude. Is there any truth to the rumor that Dasha maybe heading City's way next year with his cheque book?
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Orana you seem to be very good on The Group history.could you please tell me last time a team got a century put in them. Excluding your 1st grade on Sunday that is.
I vaguely remember The Oaks getting beat in 2000, it was the year after they made the GF. I think it was Camden that got them Did anyone beat Ingleburn by 100 in the combined comp? You might be right I do recall the Bulldogs having 100 put on them. I remember in 1994 Camden put 114 points on Moss Vale , Mossy had a few 100+ scorelines on them that year.
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Aug 11 2015, 11:00 AM
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Orana you seem to be very good on The Group history.could you please tell me last time a team got a century put in them. Excluding your 1st grade on Sunday that is.
I vaguely remember The Oaks getting beat in 2000, it was the year after they made the GF. I think it was Camden that got them Did anyone beat Ingleburn by 100 in the combined comp? Yeah Picton beat The Oaks either 104-0 or 108-0 in 2000. It was crazy since it was the grand final replay from the previous year.
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Orana you seem to be very good on The Group history.could you please tell me last time a team got a century put in them. Excluding your 1st grade on Sunday that is.
I vaguely remember The Oaks getting beat in 2000, it was the year after they made the GF. I think it was Camden that got them Did anyone beat Ingleburn by 100 in the combined comp?
Yeah Picton beat The Oaks either 104-0 or 108-0 in 2000. It was crazy since it was the grand final replay from the previous year. It happens. Camden got to 80 against us on the weekend. They scored a lot of points in the second half. That is by far the biggest score i've seen against our club since i've been there.
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Is there any truth to the rumor that Dasha maybe heading City's way next year with his cheque book? I hope not. My liver wouldn't cope.
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Orana you seem to be very good on The Group history.could you please tell me last time a team got a century put in them. Excluding your 1st grade on Sunday that is.
I vaguely remember The Oaks getting beat in 2000, it was the year after they made the GF. I think it was Camden that got them Did anyone beat Ingleburn by 100 in the combined comp?
Yeah Picton beat The Oaks either 104-0 or 108-0 in 2000. It was crazy since it was the grand final replay from the previous year.
It happens. Camden got to 80 against us on the weekend. They scored a lot of points in the second half. That is by far the biggest score i've seen against our club since i've been there. Dragons have been in games where result has gone both ways. 2010 we put 90 in Ingleburn, had some big scores against us in the mid 90's and we put 100 on Thirlmere in 1990. I just wonder I thought the points system was introduced to even the comp out. Doesn't seem to be having the desired effect. Not taking anything away from Picton and Camden but there is daylight between those 2 teams and the rest. It is up to the other clubs to try and improve, but it is a very big gap!!!
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