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Feb 11 2016, 07:09 AM
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Feb 10 2016, 02:29 PM
Wrong! We still have the same budget as last season. The issue is the coal league are offering double the money as group 6 clubs and we suffer as we are on the boundary. Also players retiring hasn't helped, but that was always going to happen. That's why we are concentrating on building u18s.
Your on the outskirts of ctown. West comp don't pay their players and no offense to city but they weren't Attracting the names that you had at your club last year who obviously ddnt play for the love of the club. If you can't get a team in first grade someone isn't doing their job. You could buy half a team for what you paid flanno Gibbs and woodo last year!
We're getting there now. It's been a slow burn but significant progress will be made this season. We went well last year for the most part, but the 18 game season proved a few bridges too far, particularly with games against big guns Camden and Picton late in the season.

I love this fallacy about just being able to buy a 1st Grade standard team/ nucleus from the Wests JL. The best players residing in the Campbelltown LGA are at RMC Clubs, or at Picton. With nine 1st Grade titles since the split of the competitions in 1984, they have been the primary beneficiary of players from the Campbelltown area. It isn't that far to travel, it's a great footy club and the amenities are really good for this standard. Victoria Park is a beautiful football field. Did Picton end up entering the Coal League Pre-season tournament? Would have been interesting seeing them up against Collies and Wests.
Appin were able to 'wholus- bolus' import an entire 3 grade structure from Campbelltown Warriors in 1992. Even that had petared out by 1997 without renewal of juniors and whole U/18 teams imported from Campbelltown- as Appin did 1992-96, winning two U/18 premierships in 1992 & 94, whilst runners up to Camden in 1996.

If Appin aren't going to get a 1st Grade, with the strength of their U/18s building, it's probably vital they take the 10th Reserve Grade spot and can still follow the 1st Division 1st Grade draw for U/18s & Reserve Grade.
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Feb 11 2016, 09:02 AM
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Feb 11 2016, 07:09 AM
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Feb 10 2016, 03:24 PM
Rob
Feb 10 2016, 02:29 PM
Wrong! We still have the same budget as last season. The issue is the coal league are offering double the money as group 6 clubs and we suffer as we are on the boundary. Also players retiring hasn't helped, but that was always going to happen. That's why we are concentrating on building u18s.
Your on the outskirts of ctown. West comp don't pay their players and no offense to city but they weren't Attracting the names that you had at your club last year who obviously ddnt play for the love of the club. If you can't get a team in first grade someone isn't doing their job. You could buy half a team for what you paid flanno Gibbs and woodo last year!
We're getting there now. It's been a slow burn but significant progress will be made this season. We went well last year for the most part, but the 18 game season proved a few bridges too far, particularly with games against big guns Camden and Picton late in the season.

I love this fallacy about just being able to buy a 1st Grade standard team/ nucleus from the Wests JL. The best players residing in the Campbelltown LGA are at RMC Clubs, or at Picton. With nine 1st Grade titles since the split of the competitions in 1984, they have been the primary beneficiary of players from the Campbelltown area. It isn't that far to travel, it's a great footy club and the amenities are really good for this standard. Victoria Park is a beautiful football field. Did Picton end up entering the Coal League Pre-season tournament? Would have been interesting seeing them up against Collies and Wests.
Appin were able to 'wholus- bolus' import an entire 3 grade structure from Campbelltown Warriors in 1992. Even that had petared out by 1997 without renewal of juniors and whole U/18 teams imported from Campbelltown- as Appin did 1992-96, winning two U/18 premierships in 1992 & 94, whilst runners up to Camden in 1996.

If Appin aren't going to get a 1st Grade, with the strength of their U/18s building, it's probably vital they take the 10th Reserve Grade spot and can still follow the 1st Division 1st Grade draw for U/18s & Reserve Grade.
I'm not saying they can buy a first grade standard team from wests. But they can attract a few capable players that will in turn bring mates etc. they won't be a top 5 team but they will have a first grade team already in place to promote these u18 into rather than promise them that they'll have a first grade next year. Looking at the track record plus other group clubs offering money with first grade teams in place unlikely they would stick around. Who in the current Picton team is from campnelltown?
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Feb 10 2016, 02:29 PM
Wrong! We still have the same budget as last season. The issue is the coal league are offering double the money as group 6 clubs and we suffer as we are on the boundary. Also players retiring hasn't helped, but that was always going to happen. That's why we are concentrating on building u18s.
I here Matt Blunden training with you guys. Better let Dave Lowe know 😆😆😆
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Feb 12 2016, 10:05 AM
Rob
Feb 10 2016, 02:29 PM
Wrong! We still have the same budget as last season. The issue is the coal league are offering double the money as group 6 clubs and we suffer as we are on the boundary. Also players retiring hasn't helped, but that was always going to happen. That's why we are concentrating on building u18s.
I here Matt Blunden training with you guys. Better let Dave Lowe know 😆😆😆
Big shot
Dave can show Matt his premiership medal while they are at it
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Feb 12 2016, 11:08 AM
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Feb 12 2016, 10:05 AM
Rob
Feb 10 2016, 02:29 PM
Wrong! We still have the same budget as last season. The issue is the coal league are offering double the money as group 6 clubs and we suffer as we are on the boundary. Also players retiring hasn't helped, but that was always going to happen. That's why we are concentrating on building u18s.
I here Matt Blunden training with you guys. Better let Dave Lowe know 😆😆😆
Big shot
Dave can show Matt his premiership medal while they are at it
Pretty sure they both have plenty of respect for each other :correct:
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Probably a interesting topic for debate.
Biggest hits in recent Group 6 history, say the last 10 years. Any thoughts ???
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Feb 12 2016, 04:25 AM
Who in the current Picton team is from campnelltown?
Michael Lett
Blake Matthews
Don Thompson
Tim Dengate
Benson Tupou
Jason Thompson
Kenny Ahovelo
??Billy Carroll??- Liverpool way?
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Feb 12 2016, 01:39 PM
Probably a interesting topic for debate.
Biggest hits in recent Group 6 history, say the last 10 years. Any thoughts ???
That hit was pretty big, terrible pass though
For collisions back in about 2000 David Ingram pole axed Gavin McCourt off the kickoff.
I can't remember the year (2008/09/10?) but Luke Barron nearly killed Sam Campbell. The referee panicked and blew a penalty it was that big and later couldn't explain what the penalty was for. Both hits were at Kirkham
As for biggest hitters, Matt Macbeth used to reel them off for fun
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Footy59
Feb 12 2016, 01:39 PM
Probably a interesting topic for debate.
Biggest hits in recent Group 6 history, say the last 10 years. Any thoughts ???
That hit was pretty big, terrible pass though
For collisions back in about 2000 David Ingram pole axed Gavin McCourt off the kickoff.
I can't remember the year (2008/09/10?) but Luke Barron nearly killed Sam Campbell. The referee panicked and blew a penalty it was that big and later couldn't explain what the penalty was for. Both hits were at Kirkham
As for biggest hitters, Matt Macbeth used to reel them off for fun
Going back more than 10 years but Andrew "Hairy" Murdoch used to crunch blokes when playing for Mossy and Mittagong. He ironed out Henry Raymond who was playing for Picton, twice one year. One in each round they were massive hits
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Pakki folded Ben weir 2 or 3 seasons ago. Probably a 40kg weight difference as well.
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Appin still chasing players for all grades. If interested please contact me.
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Feb 17 2016, 08:57 AM
Appin still chasing players for all grades. If interested please contact me.
Maybe less wiggles concerts and lost dogs post on your fb page and replace it with info for perspective players might help the cause
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Feb 18 2016, 06:57 AM
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Feb 17 2016, 08:57 AM
Appin still chasing players for all grades. If interested please contact me.
Maybe less wiggles concerts and lost dogs post on your fb page and replace it with info for perspective players might help the cause
Clubs have no control on adds on their sportingpulse sites that's how those sites are funded and paid for.
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Feb 18 2016, 12:31 PM
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Feb 18 2016, 06:57 AM
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Feb 17 2016, 08:57 AM
Appin still chasing players for all grades. If interested please contact me.
Maybe less wiggles concerts and lost dogs post on your fb page and replace it with info for perspective players might help the cause
Clubs have no control on adds on their sportingpulse sites that's how those sites are funded and paid for.
Someone is running their facebook page.and those lost dogs aren't paying for themselves to be posted
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Assessments of the 2016 Season:
Picton: Clayton Cup winners 2016. Would barely have to train to claim the title. Are way out in front of all other clubs and are only just peaking in their team's development. Will be the first Group 6 team to win four premierships straight.

Narellan: will be the only genuine challengers to Picton. Have the best 7-9 combination of any team in Crook and Flanagan. Most impressive recruitment of any club.

Camden: will be there or thereabouts. Well coached by Scotty Borg and potent attacking combination that will have the measure of most teams. Cashmere is a huge loss on and off field. Picton has shown how to flog them, and Narellan play a similar style.

Thirlmere: Lopini Paea, the Lahey brothers signed. Minto Cobras have moved down the freeway and the Thirlmere 'Cobras' would be an apt moniker in 2016. Will be the big improvers, Paea will be the buy the Club has needed to gel the playing group together. In young half Nathan Potts, they have a playmaker they can build their next decade around.

The Oaks: 2015 surprise packets and have bolstered their depth once again. Had a brilliant hooker in their U/18Bs sure to push Alec Bush and the Brasingtons just ooze class. Will be better again in 2016.

City: have signed well and boast youth and depth. Would win a G6 U/21 premiership, but this isn't contested. Still lacking recognised playmakers at 9 and 7 to build around, although their backline and forward packs will be the best the club has had since readmission.

Mittagong: Ricky Garard back from Canberra NYC at halfback. Thorpe at 9. Is Warwick Carter back? If so, they go close to the Top 3. Lack a forward pack leader.

Moss Vale: will field a strong 1-17, but will be challenged by depth and injuries. Payney $1.02 to play.

Oakdale: apparently struggling at present for consistent first grade quality and numbers. Signings of big George and Manu will bolster what was a handy pack in 2015. Produced some stirring victories in 2015, but a return to Top 5 football may be beyond still in 2016.

Appin: mass exodus of 1st grade players and are still hoping against hope to have a first grade team. Word is they have informed the Group and will seek to play Reserve Grade and U/18s in 2016, with a view to re-establishment in 2017. Where are all the Wooden baggers now?
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Assessments of the 2016 Season:
Picton: Clayton Cup winners 2016. Would barely have to train to claim the title. Are way out in front of all other clubs and are only just peaking in their team's development. Will be the first Group 6 team to win four premierships straight.

Narellan: will be the only genuine challengers to Picton. Have the best 7-9 combination of any team in Crook and Flanagan. Most impressive recruitment of any club.

Camden: will be there or thereabouts. Well coached by Scotty Borg and potent attacking combination that will have the measure of most teams. Cashmere is a huge loss on and off field. Picton has shown how to flog them, and Narellan play a similar style.

Thirlmere: Lopini Paea, the Lahey brothers signed. Minto Cobras have moved down the freeway and the Thirlmere 'Cobras' would be an apt moniker in 2016. Will be the big improvers, Paea will be the buy the Club has needed to gel the playing group together. In young half Nathan Potts, they have a playmaker they can build their next decade around.

The Oaks: 2015 surprise packets and have bolstered their depth once again. Had a brilliant hooker in their U/18Bs sure to push Alec Bush and the Brasingtons just ooze class. Will be better again in 2016.

City: have signed well and boast youth and depth. Would win a G6 U/21 premiership, but this isn't contested. Still lacking recognised playmakers at 9 and 7 to build around, although their backline and forward packs will be the best the club has had since readmission.

Mittagong: Ricky Garard back from Canberra NYC at halfback. Thorpe at 9. Is Warwick Carter back? If so, they go close to the Top 3. Lack a forward pack leader.

Moss Vale: will field a strong 1-17, but will be challenged by depth and injuries. Payney $1.02 to play.

Oakdale: apparently struggling at present for consistent first grade quality and numbers. Signings of big George and Manu will bolster what was a handy pack in 2015. Produced some stirring victories in 2015, but a return to Top 5 football may be beyond still in 2016.

Appin: mass exodus of 1st grade players and are still hoping against hope to have a first grade team. Word is they have informed the Group and will seek to play Reserve Grade and U/18s in 2016, with a view to re-establishment in 2017. Where are all the Wooden baggers now?
Where's the mail bush is at the oaks come from??? Seen him playing for Guildford a few weeks back.

I think the wraps on crook may be a little premature wouldn't be the first big shot to flop out here heard he was very underwhelming for the jets at cabramatta losing all there games heavily against beatable opposition. Took a pretty handy squad most first grade signings bar flanno who's Barley been sighted at jets training. Combinations on paper don't always translate on the field. Don't know how you can go past provost dengate 3 premierships already.

If Appin don't field a 1st grade it's a joke. Every team has to go through a tough year or two. Mossy, oakdale, city have all endured tough seasons to remain in first grade in recent years to opt out and play reserve grade is a soft option from the playing group. Minto players going to thirlemere rather than down the road to Appin how hard are they trying?

I think mittagong a long way from top 3. Small pack loss of blackshaw inexperienced coach midfield at best.

City mossy oakdale to fight for the spoon. Appin in there too if they decide to have a go.
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Where are all the Wooden baggers now?
Suppose it depends if you think a coaches job is to seek short term glory or to help develop a club. I think I've heard people say a sign of a good coach is if he leaves a joint in a better position then when he started. Appin finished last year with no 18s, a 1st grade team on good money finishing 4th or 5th and full of retirements, and rumor has it a reserves team full of players who wouldn't play 1st.
Im not sure which side of the fence i sit but im sure Woodo will be a huge asset for Narellan this year (if he's there as rumors suggest).
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Feb 26 2016, 11:44 PM
Where's the mail bush is at the oaks come from??? Seen him playing for Guildford a few weeks back.

I think the wraps on crook may be a little premature wouldn't be the first big shot to flop out here heard he was very underwhelming for the jets at cabramatta losing all there games heavily against beatable opposition. Took a pretty handy squad most first grade signings bar flanno who's Barley been sighted at jets training. Combinations on paper don't always translate on the field. Don't know how you can go past provost dengate 3 premierships already.

If Appin don't field a 1st grade it's a joke. Every team has to go through a tough year or two. Mossy, oakdale, city have all endured tough seasons to remain in first grade in recent years to opt out and play reserve grade is a soft option from the playing group. Minto players going to thirlemere rather than down the road to Appin how hard are they trying?

I think mittagong a long way from top 3. Small pack loss of blackshaw inexperienced coach midfield at best.

City mossy oakdale to fight for the spoon. Appin in there too if they decide to have a go.
Welcome to the forum Atilla. Bush was mentioned in this week's Group 6 League News.

Crook and Flanagan have more ability in their left pinky than the Picton duo. But if their attitude is off and one isn't training, that won't count for much. Flanagan has been injury plagued the last few seasons and isn't getting younger. Remember that Picton were a very beatable team until they landed Lett, and then Thompson took them beyond again. There's six tries/ assists minimum per game between that pair.

I don't know about Mossy not being in 1st Grade (2012- 2nd Division, 2014 reggies), Oakdale (2014 reggies). Tough one, we only just scraped through in 2014. If we hadn't landed Aitken and Swain when we did, we wouldn't have finished what was only a 14 game season.

Those guys aren't 'Minto players' per se, but Minto juniors/ locals. Grant Lahey is an Eagles junior, while Brett Lahey is an ESA junior. 50%+ of Group 6 playing ranks hail from the Wests JL.

Mittagong will be better with Garard steering the ship. He and Crook will have the comp's best kicking games. Rookie coach but and last year there was still plenty of the positive residue from the structures the Borgs had implemented. Warwick Carter was the best 13 in the Group when he left for the UK last season, not sure if he's back.

We'll be well clear of the spoon in 2016. I wish we could land a goal kicker but.
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Where are all the Wooden baggers now?
Suppose it depends if you think a coaches job is to seek short term glory or to help develop a club. I think I've heard people say a sign of a good coach is if he leaves a joint in a better position then when he started. Appin finished last year with no 18s, a 1st grade team on good money finishing 4th or 5th and full of retirements, and rumor has it a reserves team full of players who wouldn't play 1st.
Im not sure which side of the fence i sit but im sure Woodo will be a huge asset for Narellan this year (if he's there as rumors suggest).
Wooden put Appin together. The Group should use him to start a second Camden 'franchise, based out Spring Farm way. Appin not having reggies in 2014 and then no 18s in 2015, poor retention of their 18s from 2014 too, hurts. You need a core of 15x first grade capable players to at least start a season, and I'd doubt Appin would even have that. The initial enthusiasm of re-entry gets you through the first two years, but it's long haul stuff after that. I've said it before- it took Narellan 10 years (1983-93) to qualify for their first semi final series after dominating 2nd Division 1977-82, and Thirlmere languished in 2nd Division between 1970 and 1983. Re-entered 1st Division 1st Grade upon the competition split in 1984 and qualified for their first semi final series in 1996. Woodo exceeded that, but the Club was unable to consolidate upon, for whatever reason.
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Assessments of the 2016 Season:
Picton: Clayton Cup winners 2016. Would barely have to train to claim the title. Are way out in front of all other clubs and are only just peaking in their team's development. Will be the first Group 6 team to win four premierships straight.

Narellan: will be the only genuine challengers to Picton. Have the best 7-9 combination of any team in Crook and Flanagan. Most impressive recruitment of any club.

Camden: will be there or thereabouts. Well coached by Scotty Borg and potent attacking combination that will have the measure of most teams. Cashmere is a huge loss on and off field. Picton has shown how to flog them, and Narellan play a similar style.

Thirlmere: Lopini Paea, the Lahey brothers signed. Minto Cobras have moved down the freeway and the Thirlmere 'Cobras' would be an apt moniker in 2016. Will be the big improvers, Paea will be the buy the Club has needed to gel the playing group together. In young half Nathan Potts, they have a playmaker they can build their next decade around.

The Oaks: 2015 surprise packets and have bolstered their depth once again. Had a brilliant hooker in their U/18Bs sure to push Alec Bush and the Brasingtons just ooze class. Will be better again in 2016.

City: have signed well and boast youth and depth. Would win a G6 U/21 premiership, but this isn't contested. Still lacking recognised playmakers at 9 and 7 to build around, although their backline and forward packs will be the best the club has had since readmission.

Mittagong: Ricky Garard back from Canberra NYC at halfback. Thorpe at 9. Is Warwick Carter back? If so, they go close to the Top 3. Lack a forward pack leader.

Moss Vale: will field a strong 1-17, but will be challenged by depth and injuries. Payney $1.02 to play.

Oakdale: apparently struggling at present for consistent first grade quality and numbers. Signings of big George and Manu will bolster what was a handy pack in 2015. Produced some stirring victories in 2015, but a return to Top 5 football may be beyond still in 2016.

Appin: mass exodus of 1st grade players and are still hoping against hope to have a first grade team. Word is they have informed the Group and will seek to play Reserve Grade and U/18s in 2016, with a view to re-establishment in 2017. Where are all the Wooden baggers now?
I've been too busy for footy this year, but I went down to our trial at Batemans Bay and that gave me renewed confidence in what we do have as opposed to what we don't
I'm confident that we will compete a lot better than what we did last year.
Numbers are not a major issue.
Edited by tc6_11, Feb 27 2016, 01:15 PM.
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