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E3 2005 - Revolution Downloadable Games Wishlist
Topic Started: May 19 2005, 09:56 PM (965 Views)
The Yak
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As you may or may not have heard by now, Nintendo released more information on the Revolution, saying that they are going to have downloadable games from N64, SNES, and NES.

My thought on this is that it puts in place the perfect infrastructure for re-releasing BS-Zelda and BS-Zelda 3 (Kodai no Sekiban).

Now, before I get flames telling me I'm a n00b l00ser, and before anyone starts quoting me and putting things on their own websites, let me say that I am not connected with Nintendo or the video game industry and have no inside information on whether it will ever happen. I'm not saying they are going to and they likely won't, but hey, a kid can dream can't he?

Anyways... Just wanted to get people's take on this
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2awesome4apossum
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Yes, we've discussed/dreamed about this. It's not gonna happen, but we've been dreaming of different ways for the BS Zelda games to get released in US/Europe for years. Or at least, *I* have. Wasn't one of the ideas AST as a second quest on the GBA ALTTP.

Anyway, I think that it should have either a special download, or be on another "collector's edition" disc...

Did you know that I wrote a letter to "Nintendy" 13 months before they came out with the collector's disc, in which I had EVERY SINGLE FEATURE on there (except the video on TWW, but I DID have the other video (described slightly differently), and TWW demo), but I also had ALTTP and the first BS Zelda on the list... (before I had truly figured out what AST was all about... I don't think I ever cared until Garrett came around)

Is 13 months too short of a time for them to have listened? I'm wanting to say "yes". Besides, I'm sure they got a lot of that kinda crap, but it's still fun to think that I inspired the idea... :)
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Yeah, we've thought about that too, but:

from Duke Serkol
 
IGNcube: Can you talk about Revolution's download service? What games will we be able to download?

Shigeru Miyamoto: We have not set a price or determined a list of software for the Nintendo Revolution download service. But, we're looking at this as a consumer service and not so much from the business end. What we want to do is provide the product that is going to make the Revolution the console that people want in their homes. So it actually might be driven from the consumer end rather than from us. You know, the games that they most want might be the ones that we do. From a technological point, we can do any of them. It's just, we haven't determined which ones we'll do yet.


Crud... looks like we will not only have to pay, but can forget about the little known games we actually would have paid for (such as BS Zelda or F-Zero X DD)


And... flames for being a n00b l00ser? Why would anybody on this board do that? It is devoted to those games! :lol:
So don't worry, go ahead and register: you'll fit right in ^_^


Possum, what did you write in your letter? "nintendy make a collection of all zelda games up to MM plz k thx"? And why not LA?
Just kidding ;)
How did you describe the retrospective in your letter? I think the one we got could have been made better.
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It's still on my comp., but I g2g now, so I'll post it asap!
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Personally the feature I liked the most was the animated boxes in the menu, in particular that of LoZ with the faeries flying around the title. I really, really I knew what the Japanese menu is like.
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*sounds of overly-gross Homer Simpson drooling* That would be so sweet.

Aside from the technical woes of converting the games, it would be the perfect situation.

Imagine if you could download a never before seen Zelda game, with Live Voice acting throughout and online scoreboards and other cool junk. For a small fee of course, but think how many Zelda fans would be drooling all over their wireless controllers at the thought of playing a lost game...

The BS Zeldas alone would be very lucrative. Considering they don't have to "publish" the games on any medium, it's just free money waiting to be made, and if no-one buys it there's no loss so no risk in releasing the games.

Then again, if they rerelease them... I'll *have* to buy a Revolution. There's no way I can live without Twilight Princess AND ports of ALttP/BSZ1/AST. Just not possible.

I'll be a very poor man... :( ...but a very happy one... :D
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Garrett,May 20 2005
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Imagine if you could download a never before seen Zelda game, with Live Voice acting throughout and online scoreboards and other cool junk. For a small fee of course, but think how many Zelda fans would be drooling all over their wireless controllers at the thought of playing a lost game...

Judging from how many people we've been able to get on this board not that many (Possum says whenever he mentions this place on Zelda FanGameCentral everybody goes "OLOL BullShit Zelda!"
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OK, so I'm not the only one who thinks of bullshit when I think of BS. ;) :P

I'd love to see packs of games. I don't feel too happy about paying money for just Zelda 1, but if they were to sell 1 and 2, 3 and 4 (maybe all together), and SMB 1, 2, 3 and 2J/LL as packs then I'd consider it.
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I was hoping the games would have been free but that seems not to be the case. You may think I'm crazy for just thiniking about it, but consider: the vast majority of thsoe games are already emulated.
The only way Nintendo could use them to actually increase the sales of their new console would be by giving them for free.
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Face it: old games + money = Nintendo ;)
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Face it, 75% of GBA titles are ports with a couple of added features. :D
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Yeah, I know.
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I assume anything we get on GBA we won't get on Revolution. Why buy the GBA game for $20 when you can play the Revolution version for $1.95? :)

Which probably means no Link to the Past... :(
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Better question: will people really pay (it is confirmed, we'll pay for each game) to download a game on their Revolution when they can emulate it on their PC for free (as immoral as that may be... hey that rhymed)

I'll use your "Face it" guys, if this is to be the Revolution trump card, then Nintendo is screwed.
The majority of players will want the dozens of times more powerful consoles by Sony and Microsoft and the hardcore minority of old Nintendo fans will be divided in those few that will download/buy more than a couple games and those that merrily emulated all of those games already.
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I'd rather have this be the Revolution "trump card" simply because I don't want to see something retarded (have they shown that blasted controller yet? Hope it's just a normal controller). The thing about emulation is that it is extremely open. They don't seem to care enough to do anything about it, and almost everyone knows exactly how to get emus and roms...

But back to my letter that I wrote them. Keep in mind that I really knew more about BS Zelda, but didn't want to seem... suspicious. There are also more differences to my proposal and the actual disc than I thought... but that's aight.

Here it is (a modified version without the addresses and closing):

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To whom it may concern at Nintendo:

I am a long time fan of the Legend of Zelda series.  It is possibly the most beloved Nintendo created series of all time, and that is why I am writing on behalf of millions of fans.  I currently own every single US-released Zelda video game, but many do not and cannot afford or even find many of the older games.  That is the main purpose for me writing.

I own a Nintendo GameCube, and have been impressed with it’s capabilities which exceed the other Nintendo systems by far.  I have gotten a copy of one disc in particular entitled the Sonic Mega Collection, and it has inspired me to request something that many Nintendo and Zelda fans alike must feel the need for, and that it: a Legend of Zelda collection for the GameCube.

I have a small list of ideas that just might work for such a project.  First of all, the first two Zelda games that originally came out for the NES would be games that fans of the origins of the series would drool over.  This would also give an opportunity for many of the bugs to be worked out and the ability to show it off in a higher resolution than has ever been seen before.

Another game that I’m sure that fans would love to see it the third in the series, A Link to the Past.  However, I realize that a GameBoy Advance version has recently been released, so it is understandable why this might not happen.  However, I believe that it will only increase sells for the disc.  I do not know if this is possible, but a GBA to GCN link if the player has the GBA version as well might increase sells on both ends.  A possibility is doing something with Four Swords, or maybe unlocking a special Zelda game (I will come back to the idea).

Now, there are many people that missed out on the excellent Wind Waker reserve disc, and did not get the MasterQuest version of Ocarina of Time.  This could be a chance to improve the graphical outdates with the games.  This is just a suggestion, but the original Ocarina of Time is something that cannot be left out even if no fixes are included, and the MasterQuest version is missing.

While we’re on the subject of 3D games, why not add Majora’s Mask?  This would also give a chance to re-release this quest for the N64 with a much higher resolution, and enhanced graphics.

I have heard of a game named BS Zelda for the SNES that was a downloadable game over in Japan, that the US and Europe never got.  This would be the perfect chance to introduce a new Zelda game that we never got and might even be the main selling point for Zelda fans.  However, it could also be an easter egg that is unknown until the player beats one of the games or something like that (also refer back to my comments on A Link to the Past).

At the same time, it could be a nice advertising investment.  I was with the uproar of fans that was not pleased with The Wind Waker at first.  However, I was at the store about a month after I reserved it, and saw the demo.  It had me convinced that I had made a good investment, and I believe that the demo will do the same for many others.

One of the highlights (for me) of the Sonic Mega Collection, was the video that you could play that showed highlights from all of the Sonic games.  I think that this would be a good thing to have in a disc such as this.  Show all of the fans’ favorite boss battles and possibly show a little bit of behind the scenes work.

The same disc that I have been referring to this whole letter, also have one more feature that I just have to include, and that is the comic section.  I think that it would be a really good idea to have all of the Valiant Zelda comics, and possibly even those ones that were featured in Nintendo Power.

Thank you for all of your time, and for all that you have listened.


I also wrote another one a couple of months later (that I do not have) that suggested coming out with the Zelda cartoons on some sort of disc for the GameCube.

And as I said before (if I recall correctly), I wrote this about a year before it came out...
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