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Japanese speaking person searched; for the textbox translation box patch
Topic Started: Sep 21 2008, 01:35 PM (3,271 Views)
Duke Serkol
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I say we should wait to hear what Hiei- thinks of our posts.
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Terra Branford
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That's what I've been doing... but since I never say anything anymore, I thought I should interject a little bit.
I'm officially retired from beta testing, and resign my duties to those who have the time to do it.
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Hiei-
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Contrary to the some previous signs, it's sure this one is really weird.

It's maybe not related to something in particular.

I gave you the litteral translation, now you need to get a good styled text in english, even if it differ from the translation, I don't think it's a problem as the sign don't give any advice in fact.

I'll look to the next soon, hoping the next one isn't as weird as this one lol.
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Great, the next wait signs are:

1:40 The Lost Woods' magic disappears
1:45 The Tornadoes disappear. Go for the White Sword
1:50 a whistle is heard upon entering overworld screens with a secret

Kanji we already have (maybe it is faster for you)
1:40
お前はゆけどもゆけどもゆけられない森を見た事もあるか。
森の悪霊を老原を実用を使ってみよう。
これで迷いの森は自由に行き出来るはずだ。

1:45 or 1:50 (one of them is missing)
彼らは今でもわしに語りかかれて来る。
彼らはお前に力をかそうと言っている。
少しくふうをしてみよう。
彼らの居場所が分かるように。

I'd still suggest this solution for 1:30 due to the reasons I already mentioned:
There are people hiding. They want to talk to you and might help. Also servants of the Evil King conceal themselves in the dark. My new power will help you to find them, so you can build up your strenght. I predict you will accept it, but be careful, because you can also get hurt by this power.

I will upload a new patch as soon I have week 2 completed. Week 3 pretty much seems to be includeable as it is... except the wait sign at 2:50

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How about ending the line with a "use it carefully" rather than go into detail about getting hurt? That seems less distant from the original.

Anyway, I asked Glitter Berri to have a look at this part and tell us what she thinks of it.
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I think I'll just take the message as being of the plain value that all the characters you find hidden in bushes are Moblins, and therefore the Old Man inherently does not trust them, even if, indeed, his statement about "Bad people" does not end up really applying until, ironically, other old men come up.

There do seem to be some moments where the Old Man seems to talk subjectively rather than giving an obvious game hint, after all - wouldn't be too unfeasible for something he says to be wrong, especially if he forewards it with "You're gonna use this power anyway" - essentially saying that even if the old man's right, you're still gonna have to encounter said people.
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Hmm... all moblins will help you out with free rupees (so you can buy the blue ring)... then, there is one old man with a heart container and a medicine woman (who ~might~ be of help).
I think it is just confusing and incorrect if we include "not all are your allies"... so either we add "hurt by this power" cause you can get hurt when touching the flames, or follow Duke's suggestion and just include the warning "be careful" without anything else.

Let's see what Glitterberry says :)))

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Hiei-
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Next sign (first sign of the BSZelda1-2-3.flv video) :
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お前は行けども行けども抜けられない森を見たことがあるか
=> Did you already see the insurmontable forest ? (litteraly, he's saying "the forest that you can't leave wherever you go". I think it's refering to the forest you need to go four screen upper in Zelda 1 to find a dungeon)

森の悪霊おいあらい術を使ってみよう
=> I threw/used a spell on the evil spirits of this forest.

これで迷いの森は事由に行き来出来るはず
With this, you'll be able to coming and going freely of this strange forest. (litteraly, he's saying "mayoi no mori", "the forest of confusion", literraly "mayoi" means "confused/disconcert", so a forest which confuse the player who don't know where to go in it, and end by getting lost in it)

Luckily, this sign wasn't weird as the previous one.

Next sign (sign 2 of the BSZelda1-2-3.flv video) :
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やっと、やっとだ
=> At last, finally.

漸く砂漠の嵐押さえる事に成功した
=> I finally managed to help you/to let you (to) not be stopped/repressed anymore by the storm of the desert.

これで砂漠は危険のない世界になるだはずだ
=> Now, the desert should have become a land without danger. <= (probably need to be modified, because "without danger" is a bit weird, even if it's the translation, because there should always be, at least, some ennemis in it.

Next sign (sign 3 of the BSZelda1-2-3.flv video) :
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彼らを今でも儂に語りかけてくる
=> They are still talking to me.

彼らはお前に力を貸そうと言っている
=> They are saying they want me to lend you my power (or "to help you with my power").

少し、工夫をしてみよう
=> For a little while, I'll use a scheme/device. <= (Not sure for this one (I only see this for "Kufuu"), need to be check with the actual effect)

彼らの居場所が分かるように。
=> (With that), you'll be able to know their locations.

And I think it's the last of the video and of the week 2 ? (Didn't saw others ones).

If yes, I'll look at the next ones soon (week 3).

Feel free to ask if you want any further explanations about the lines or if you don't understand some parts of my "engrish".
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Fantastic!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I have listed all wait signs that we have now at
http://z9.invisionfree.com/bszelda/index.p...opic=802&st=60&
for the sake of consideration. As soon all go conform with my suggestions there I'll include them into the rom

Week 3 is pretty much completed (though it would be great if you can check them for completeness/correctness). Only the ~last~ wait sign at 2:50 (when it's getting dark must be translated (as far I think) :)

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Hiei-
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I will look at them soon.
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Hiei-
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Let's go for the week 3

I'll edit my post after the watching.

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Week 3

2:10 A Street Vendor sells Blue Medicine for 10 rupees before Level 5
勇者よ。
苦しい戦いを押してないだろうか。
海の向こうレベル5の迷宮のそばに薬よりがやってきておる。
命を回復させるの貴重な薬だ。
ぜひとも持って行くが良い。

Hero.
You are fighting a difficult battle.
There is a medicine shop beside the Level 5 dungeon across the sea.
This precious medicine will heal your wounds.
Be sure to take some with you.


This one is okay for me (there is an useless "の" on the line four but it change nothing in the translation).

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2:20 Unlimited Bombs
勇者よ。
再びあの恐ろしい光景がわしの見に見えてきた。
怪物を壁を?を煙と供に壊してやる者の姿だ。
またお前の導いた星の力が強く感じられる。
わしの身体をとうしてお前にその力が届くであろう。

Hero.
Once again a terrible scene has appeared before my eyes.
It is the shape of one who destroys monsters, walls, and ? in a puff of smoke.
I can strongly feel the power of your guiding star once more.
I will channel this power through my body and deliver it to you.
Duke


The missing word should be "岩" (iwa) which means "rock/crag".

The rest of the translation is okay for me, except there is an error in one kanji of the line two ("見" instead of "目"
but it's not very important, because he again translated it right (eyes), so it's probably just a typo).

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2:30 The falling rocks stop coming
聞け、勇者よ。
北の岩山で旅人が恐ろていた落石が止まったようだ。
お前の知らない何かは待っている事だろう。
急げ、時は半分すぎた。

Listen, Hero.
It looks as though the dangerous falling rocks on the rocky mountain in the north have stopped.
Perhaps something unknown awaits you.
Hurry, your time is more than half up.


This one is also okay for me.

I will edit my post again with the last ones once I'll have finished my watching.
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Hiei-
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I can't edit my previous post anymore, the forum has probably a limit for this function so here's a new post with the end of the translation checks (for the one already translated) and translations for the missing/incomplete ones.

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2:32 You have all Heart Containers
勇者よ。
ついにわしは新しい実を見につけた。
大地流れる命の泉に触れる事が出来たのだ。
ほほほほほ。
何と素晴らしい。
この大地の力をお前に送ってみるとしよう。
正しいながくわつつからこの間に守りの固い迷宮に挑むのむのかろう。

Hero.
I have suddenly realized a new truth.
I was able to touch a spring flowing into the earth.
Hohohohoho.
Amazing!
I will attempt to send this power to you.
?


Here's mine for this one :

勇者よ。
遂に儂は新しい実を身に付けた。
大地流れる命の泉に触れる事が出来たのだ。
ほほほほほ。
何と素晴らしい。
この大地の力をお前に送ってみるとしよう。
正しい長くはつづ続かん
この間に守りの固い迷宮に挑む飲むのかろう。

- Hero.
- I finally learned a new truth.
- I was able to touch a spring of life flowing on the earth.
- Hohohohoho.
- Nanto subarashii (litteraly, "nanto" is used for sentences like "Nanto subarashii kanjou", "What a wonderful emotion", the "What a" in this sentence is the "Nanto". "Subarashii" is "Wonderful/Splendid/Magnificent" so I would say something like "It was wonderful/What a wonderful feeling", etc...)
- I'll offer this power of the earth to you.
- However, it won't last long.
- Try to keep this (amount of) time for challenging a dungeon. (but "keep" will probably need to be modified for the context, because I don't think you can decide when the "full heart" is beginning? So, if it's that, I would say "Try to use" instead of "Try to keep")

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2:35 The Tile that opens Level 6 appears
おぉ、わしも長くこの地に住んでおるんがこんな事は初めてだ。
海の水が退いて迷宮のゆうちんが現れるとこのが見える。
波の音と供にここちよいねろいが聞こえてろう。

Oh... I have lived in this land for a long time, yet I have never seen anything like this.
The sea has ebbed and the dungeon and the dungeon ? can now be seen.
?


First line is okay for me.
Here's mine for second and third lines :

- We can see the water of the sea ebbeding and the entrance of the dungeon appearing.
- And with the sound of the (sea) waves, we can hear the pleasant timbre/tone... (he do not precise the timbre/tone of "what", but from the words he's using, it would mean a sound like the one of a musical instrument).

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2:45 You get the Mighty Boomerang
なかなか力がついてきたではないか、勇者よ。
今のお前の力ならばこれを使いこなす事が出来るかもしれない。
受け取るが良い。

It looks as though your power has arrived, Hero.
With the power you now possess, you may easily be able to use it.
Accept it.


Here's mine :

- It looks like you manage to reach a high strength/power, right, Hero ?.
- You'll maybe be able to use/master it with your actual strength.
- Take it.

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2:50 First sunset (darknuts in Overworld, decreased amount of monsters in Dungeons), the falling rocks come back
こ、これはどうしたたゆうのだ。
世界の追われがやってきたのか。
迷宮に住んでた化け物どもは地上にはい出してきたではないか。
勇者よ、急いでくれ!
ハイラルが魔王の手に落ちる。
全長なのかもしれ。
?????


Here's mine :

こ、これはどうした言うのだ。
世界の終はやってきたのか。
迷宮に住んでいた化け物どもが地上にはい出してきたではないか。
勇者よ、急いでくれ!
ハイラルが魔王の手に落ちる全長なのかもしれん。

- W-What does that mean...?
- The end of the world is arrived/is happening?
- It seems some monsters who were living in the dungeons has now made their appearence in the world (it would mean "in the main map", so at the exterior of the dungeons").
- Hero, you have to hurry!
- Or else, (the whole span of ) Hyrule may/might fall in the evil king's hands. (or "evil lord" or whatever, "ganon").

Week 3 is now complete.

Feel free to ask if there is something you want to know.

Should I also check/complete the week 4, or you already have it done?

By the way, I would be interested to see a french version of your patch if you have nothing against it (In french, we only have the old roto patch), once you'll have a final version of it with all the weeks done and reinserted because your work is nice !
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So far those are pretty accurate sounding translations for what happens in the game. And while I can't speak for Conn or Serkol, I think it's a good idea to check week four also. If you have time for it.
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Fantastic, Hiei-

Thanks a lot :D :D

I have written my suggestion
http://z9.invisionfree.com/bszelda/index.p...topic=802&st=60

After Duke and Tre's spellcheck I will release the next patch :)

Only week 4 is missing then ^_^'

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Ah, Week 4 is not translated at all?

I'll do it soon then.
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