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Beta OoT; More talk about OoT's beta stages
Topic Started: Jun 17 2011, 12:14 PM (1,410 Views)
Duke Serkol
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I honestly don't know why I'm bothering, but...

http://www.n-europe.com/news.php?nid=15786

Turns out OoT Link was originally meant to always be an adult, and that only later on did they decide to make him start out as a child.

So much for Link having been a Kokiri in early versions of the game, uh? :P
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Tuf response in 3... 2... 1...
"You must be talking about Heaven... or the moon."

"It's a dog eat dog world... and there's not enough dog to go around."

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Duke Serkol,Jun 18 2011
02:16 PM
I take it you refer to the difference between fulfilling the maturing process that the body is designed for and the results of wear and cumulative malfunctions that eventually result in death.

But isn't the whole point about the Kokiri that of being like the lost children in Peter Pan? Eternally children, not just not growing old but not even growing up into adulthood?


Also, in unrelated news, Nintendo of Europe fails again:
http://www.n-europe.com/news.php?nid=15790

Badly.

I'm still pretty sure of what I say, & I'm also pretty sure that there was a version with only YOUNG :link:...

& in some versions of Peter Pan, he sounds like a teenager, like adult Link does... :P

So I still hold my ground!! :D

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Here's a picture of BETA YOUNG LINK... :D

EDIT: It doesn't seem like he has his fairy, which seems to support him being a Kokiri... :P
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Duke Serkol
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No fairy = Kokiri?

Tuf will never cease to amaze me.
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coinilius
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Wait, how is that supporting him being a Kokiri? Aren't they supposed to have fairies?
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"It's a dog eat dog world... and there's not enough dog to go around."

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08:29 PM
Here's a picture of BETA YOUNG LINK... :D

EDIT: It doesn't seem like he has his fairy, which seems to support him being a Kokiri... :P

To point out the contradiction, Kokiris are the people with fairies following them since birth. Your picture of a beta version of OOT with a fairy-less Link is evidence of the complete opposite of what you're trying to prove.

And when you compare the old trailers of Duke Nukem Forever with the final game, they have pretty much nothing in common, proving that games may drastically change during development.

...Wait I thought this thread was for the 3DS version of OoT.

Look what you guys have done with your unrelated conversation: I just compared Ocarina of Time to Duke Nukem Forever. Who knows what kind of monstrosities this may bring forth to this metaverse.


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Duke Serkol
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Only awesome.

Like say, much more appealing maidens to save from the crystals and gun toting, uniform wearing Moblins.
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Duke Serkol,Jun 23 2011
01:07 PM
Only awesome.

Like say, much more appealing maidens to save from the crystals and gun toting, uniform wearing Moblins.

I had to reread this cause I read it as:

"....gun toting, uniform wearing Malons."

Scary thought D:
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@Serkol+Coin: That wasn't quite what I meant >_<

Remember the "coming-of-age" ceremony that I mentioned at the begginning of the "OOT Beta Storyline" topic?!

Well, when I saw that picture, on this site, I remembered that I had seen it on the site that showed the different Beta Storylines, (I believe it was Zelda Chronicles), & it talked about the coming-of-age ceremony, & this particular version featured only YOUNG :link:

It looked to me like that picture is BEFORE the ceremony when they are supposed to recieve their fairies, so it IS EVIDENCE OF HIM BEING KOKIRI... :P
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Well the assunmption would have to be that that ceremony was shown at the beginning of the game so I guess that could work...
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ZethAlkar64,Jun 23 2011
07:48 PM
"....gun toting, uniform wearing Malons."

That'd be more of a Zelda+Tomb Raider than Duke Nukem.
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coinilius,Jun 24 2011
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Well the assunmption would have to be that that ceremony was shown at the beginning of the game so I guess that could work...


Glad to hear you say so!! ;) :D
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@Serkol, Check out:

this site...

There's a certain quote that you might want to pay attention to...

OOT Beta Description
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The unreleased beta of Ocarina of Time which had a completly different storyline, different characters and different graphics. For example, there were hundreds of enimies not put into the final game, The castle town market was modeled into 3D at one point, then got changed ito an image. You could ride Epona as a child.
The game went through dramatical changes over the beta period of this game and eventually it came out as the game you all know and love!


& while you might argue that the underlined/italicized/bolded part is false information, then why would Nintendo let you ride Epona as a child in MM, which, after all, was heavily influenced by the OOT Beta, anyways!!

So that information about riding Epona as a child in Beta OOT is probably TRUE...

Which would mean that there actually WAS Young :link: in at-least 1 version of Beta OOT... :D

Thus he could be Kokiri in Beta OOT...
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There have been several stages of betas for OoT.The point I was making earlier on was that Link was always an adult in the earliest ones, not that he never was a child until the game reached final stages of development before being released, that'd be crazy.
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