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| Atheism vs. Christianity | |
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| Topic Started: May 14 2007, 09:43 PM (1,760 Views) | |
| blackchaosmew | May 14 2007, 09:43 PM Post #1 |
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Are you an atheist, or a Christian? What are your beliefs? What do you think of the other side? I'm Catholic, which is basically Christian. So, I believe in God and always will. I think. |
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| Zephyr | May 15 2007, 11:05 PM Post #2 |
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Um, there are other religions besides Christianity, you know... Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and many more are all practiced by millions of people and don't deserve to be left out of this debate.
:P I consider myself Jewish, although I am in reality part Christian as well. I celebrate both Chanukah and Christmas, as well as Easter and Passover. :3 I'm not very dedicated to either one- my family belongs to no churches or temples, and we don't have daily/weekly sessions for worship or anything. In the scheme of all things, I suppose you could say I'm an Atheist. I honor their stories and believe some of them (But mostly I just enjoy hearing of the miracles and incredible lessons taught in them) but I'm not actively engaged in worship of any god. |
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| Satoshi | May 15 2007, 11:33 PM Post #3 |
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Like Zephyr, my family and I are not involved in the church (I am Lutheran btw). BUT I still belive in god, even though science is pretty acurate. |
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| Shadow | May 16 2007, 11:49 PM Post #4 |
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I don't really have any religion; we (my family) celebrates Easter and Christmas, and the only time I go to church is on Christmas. Or... for a funeral, but that doesn't exactly count... Other than that, I'm not highly religious. I believe in God, but I don't have that firm belief and faith that others might have. By the way. I've kinda been wondering, what is atheism? I've never been clear on that. XD |
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| Zephyr | May 17 2007, 01:41 AM Post #5 |
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Atheism is belief in no god. You can be considered partially atheist even if you do celebrate occasionally, depending on who's looking at you. If I were someone who dedicated their life to worship, when I looked at you I would say you were atheist, but then again it's all a matter of opinion. ...That made no sense. |
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| Shadow | May 17 2007, 08:59 PM Post #6 |
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Hmm. No, that made partial sense. XD Thanks. |
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| Arrow | May 27 2007, 04:04 PM Post #7 |
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I myself am a Christian, but I'm not an avid Christian. I think there're far too many coincidences for there to not be a God, and besides, even if there wasn't one, religion isn't necessarily a bad thing - teaches to treat others as you would like to be treated. Therefore, the roots of religion are all good; it's the extremists who are bad. |
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| Kronakitty | May 27 2007, 04:21 PM Post #8 |
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I think of myself as a Buddhist (my mom is one, too). Personally I think there's too many consequences in the Christian religion if you don't do as God says. In Buddhism, it's all about the teachings, decision you yourself make, and good/bad karma. XDDD I'm not a religion expert, really. I think religion's good for the purpose that there's something you can believe in, something that's beyond all the science-y stuff humans know. |
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| Arrow | May 27 2007, 04:28 PM Post #9 |
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I think if you follow the Golden Rule, you're fine. =P |
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| Kronakitty | May 27 2007, 05:37 PM Post #10 |
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What's the Golden Rule? XD; Don't sin? |
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| Arrow | May 27 2007, 06:28 PM Post #11 |
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Treat others as you want to be treated. Bahá'í World Faith "Ascribe not to any soul that which thou wouldst not have ascribed to thee, and say not that which thou doest not." "Blessed is he who preferreth his brother before himself." Baha'u'llah "And if thine eyes be turned towards justice, choose thou for thy neighbour that which thou choosest for thyself." Epistle to the Son of the Wolf Brahmanism "This is the sum of Dharma [duty]: Do naught unto others which would cause you pain if done to you". Mahabharata, 5:1517 " Buddhism "...a state that is not pleasing or delightful to me, how could I inflict that upon another?" Samyutta NIkaya v. 353 Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful." Udana-Varga 5:18 Christianity "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." Matthew 7:12, King James Version. "And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise." Luke 6:31, King James Version. "...and don't do what you hate...", Gospel of Thomas 6. The Gospel of Thomas is one of about 40 gospels that were widely accepted among early Christians, but which never made it into the Christian Scriptures (New Testament). Confucianism "Do not do to others what you do not want them to do to you" Analects 15:23 "Tse-kung asked, 'Is there one word that can serve as a principle of conduct for life?' Confucius replied, 'It is the word 'shu' -- reciprocity. Do not impose on others what you yourself do not desire.'" Doctrine of the Mean 13.3 "Try your best to treat others as you would wish to be treated yourself, and you will find that this is the shortest way to benevolence." Mencius VII.A.4 Ancient Egyptian "Do for one who may do for you, that you may cause him thus to do." The Tale of the Eloquent Peasant, 109 - 110 Translated by R.B. Parkinson. The original dates to 1970 to 1640 BCE and may be the earliest version ever written. Hinduism This is the sum of duty: do not do to others what would cause pain if done to you. Mahabharata 5:1517 Humanism "(5) Humanists acknowledge human interdependence, the need for mutual respect and the kinship of all humanity." "(11) Humanists affirm that individual and social problems can only be resolved by means of human reason, intelligent effort, critical thinking joined with compassion and a spirit of empathy for all living beings. " "Don't do things you wouldn't want to have done to you." British Humanist Society. Islam "None of you [truly] believes until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself." Number 13 of Imam "Al-Nawawi's Forty Hadiths." Jainism "Therefore, neither does he [a sage] cause violence to others nor does he make others do so." Acarangasutra 5.101-2. "In happiness and suffering, in joy and grief, we should regard all creatures as we regard our own self." Lord Mahavira, 24th Tirthankara "A man should wander about treating all creatures as he himself would be treated. "Sutrakritanga 1.11.33 Judaism[b/] "...thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.", Leviticus 19:18 "What is hateful to you, do not to your fellow man. This is the law: all the rest is commentary." Talmud, Shabbat 31a. "And what you hate, do not do to any one." Tobit 4:15 6 Native American Spirituality "Respect for all life is the foundation." The Great Law of Peace. "All things are our relatives; what we do to everything, we do to ourselves. All is really One." Black Elk "Do not wrong or hate your neighbor. For it is not he who you wrong, but yourself." Pima proverb. Roman Pagan Religion "The law imprinted on the hearts of all men is to love the members of society as themselves." Shinto "The heart of the person before you is a mirror. See there your own form" "Be charitable to all beings, love is the representative of God." Ko-ji-ki Hachiman Kasuga Sikhism "Compassion - mercy and religion are the support of the entire world". Japji Sahib "Don't create enmity with anyone as God is within everyone." Guru Arjan Devji 259 "No one is my enemy, none a stranger and everyone is my friend." Guru Arjan Dev : AG 1299 Sufism "The basis of Sufism is consideration of the hearts and feelings of others. If you haven't the will to gladden someone's heart, then at least beware lest you hurt someone's heart, for on our path, no sin exists but this." Dr. Javad Nurbakhsh, Master of the Nimatullahi Sufi Order. Taoism "Regard your neighbor's gain as your own gain, and your neighbor's loss as your own loss." T'ai Shang Kan Ying P'ien. "The sage has no interest of his own, but takes the interests of the people as his own. He is kind to the kind; he is also kind to the unkind: for Virtue is kind. He is faithful to the faithful; he is also faithful to the unfaithful: for Virtue is faithful." Tao Teh Ching, Chapter 49 Unitarian "We affirm and promote respect for the interdependent of all existence of which we are a part." Unitarian principles. Wicca "An it harm no one, do what thou wilt" (i.e. do what ever you will, as long as it harms nobody, including yourself). One's will is to be carefully thought out in advance of action. This is called the Wiccan Rede Yoruba: (Nigeria) "One going to take a pointed stick to pinch a baby bird should first try it on himself to feel how it hurts." Zoroastrianism "That nature alone is good which refrains from doing unto another whatsoever is not good for itself". Dadistan-i-dinik 94:5 "Whatever is disagreeable to yourself do not do unto others." Shayast-na-Shayast 13:29 I therefore dispute anyone who says religion isn't a good thing. I rest my case. =P |
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| Kiri | Jun 3 2007, 01:39 AM Post #12 |
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Eheh, my family's Christian, but we walk on loose land. For years I haven't been to church, let alone one I can understand, so I've had it a little hard to believe in that stuff. I've had the atheist attitude since a long time--I choose to believe the facts, no matter how crazy they may be--so I've decided to become an atheist myself. Of course, that doesn't stop my family from going to church... >.< |
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| Rapiido | Jun 3 2007, 04:06 AM Post #13 |
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I'm an aethist... xD I don't really believe in god and never will. And I've only ever been to a church 3 times in my life (two weddings and I had to go cause part of my family's christian and I was with them at the time) Plus I would hate to be religious in any way (sorry if that sounded offending.. D=) I just think that there's two many restrictions if you're reiligious... And personally I would feel kinda dumb praying to a guy stuck to a post on the wall.. oO (Once again not tryin to sound offending to religious people I'm just stating my opinion. D=) |
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| Arrow | Jun 3 2007, 07:33 AM Post #14 |
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There aren't really any restrictions. I'm inclined to believe that it's simply their stance on something, and not necessarily what's correct or what God Himself believes. If I followed everything the Pope said, I wouldn't be here. I'd be flaming this site 'cause Pokemon's evil and demonic. 'sides, there can't be anything wrong with religion if you follow that Golden Rule. |
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| Kiri | Jun 3 2007, 10:57 AM Post #15 |
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just keep on laughing...
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Because Pokemon's evil and demonic... that part made me crack up. xD I have a really religious Christian friend, so even though I'm an atheist doesn't mean I go to church. I just find... the information doesn't quite get to my head, yeah? I think it's much more interesting to learn about "The Big Bang" and such and such. |
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