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Version .8 Bugs and oddities list
Topic Started: Aug 4 2009, 05:28:38 AM (3,671 Views)
Gerhart
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I thought I would make a quick bug thread for the latest version.

When doing the Chariot race I was finally able to take out both competitors but one of the empty chariots still ran laps and the bastard beat me :'( . I'll admit that I had to laugh at that but at the same time frustrated, (but in a good way), as now I am still trying to get my own chariot. I thought I had it won since I had ridden myself of the competition.... who would have thought that the horse was actually my opponent ;)

I had a spy quest and the gentlemen that he was meeting up with were in that body of water, in the middle of the map. I still completed the quest as he was stuck on the waters edge, so I engaged. The others came over to the shore and got stuck so I simply engaged them also, lol.

I know I had another one but damn fading memory is in the way :D
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On an off-topic note: I absolutely love what you did with the feuding companions. That is great having the option for them to have face off, fantastic!
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+Rosha+
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Thanks for the update Gerhart, I took out the code that took a dead riders horse out of the race and forgot to put it back in for the release...doh sorry.
That spy bug was reported earlier, and I have no clue why that would happen, I haven't touched that quest, but I'll look at the code for it and see if I can figure it out.
Have you had any more of the strange graphic bugs that you had in earlier versions?
Thanks again
Rosha
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Gerhart
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As far as graphic bugs on the armours I haven't ran into any as of yet but I haven't looked at all the armours and horses yet. I have run across something strange in Chanwal and Smyrna.. unless you want them to look like this ;)

I'll take a quick jaunt around the map to different castles/towns to see if I have anymore.

Chanwal
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Smyrna
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Edited by Gerhart, Aug 4 2009, 06:28:16 AM.
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Shjn
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Well, I have the same issue
Perhaps it's also to do with the graphic card (most likely for old ones but still capable of performing DX9) Mine is Geforce 6200

I try to look at the shader setting, nothing unusual up till now

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@Rosha

Some quick dds question, is it intended that you've saved almost all your texture back in DXT5 format, for some alpha channel are just simply plain white, a normal DXT1 can save some space and buffering
Also I've noticed for some iron shader (and some other similar property) requiring the specular, you didn't make checked 'specular enable' and 'blend' all the stuff generally found in Native, and the setting is 1824 most of time for iron_shader and iron_shader_skin

It's just for my own curiosity, not really important to the game :D
Edited by Shjn, Aug 4 2009, 07:50:38 AM.
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Gerhart
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I did a quick look in the "materials.brf" and notice a lot of things coming up black.

Such as:

wall 4, wall 4 interior, and 5,8,9 : floor 1 + interior, planks interior, stonewall 1..... the list goes on. I hope this helps but then again I recently started actually learning the brf so this may be what they are suppose to be, I don't know :-/
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I had to do some graphic shuffling. Gerhart, Shjn, did you install to a clean directory? I'm just curious as I didn't change those items, so they 'should' be ok.
Try installing M&B into a new directory and put the Wedding Dance in there and see if that clears up the problem.
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Gerhart
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I uninstalled and reinstalled but still have the same problem. Are there textures missing? That's what it looks like, at least to me.

By the way it's more than just the 2 I mentioned. So far I've seen the same issue in Myrine, Cyme, Eion Castle, Ephesus Castle.... I can't remember the rest.
Edited by Gerhart, Aug 4 2009, 09:38:32 AM.
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+Rosha+
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You didn't have this issue before hand I'm assuming. This is disturbing. I'll have to see if I can find out why.
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Gerhart
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Rosha
Aug 4 2009, 09:57:31 AM
You didn't have this issue before hand I'm assuming. This is disturbing. I'll have to see if I can find out why.
I reloaded the last version and the problem was in there too. The reason I didn't see it before is I immediately went to war with the two factions and never made it into their castles. So it was there in the last version I just never noticed it until now.
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Shjn
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Rosha
Aug 4 2009, 09:57:31 AM
You didn't have this issue before hand I'm assuming. This is disturbing. I'll have to see if I can find out why.
It was there as well with version .75
But I'm doing all kind of graphical things with my M&B copy
So I didn't really pay much attention, assuming this might have the same incidence like the OSP shader setting problem

And I just checked again with .8 with DX7 and DX9
Well, with DX7, every texture is shown correctly in game
Then, with DX9, same issue reported by Gerhart


Edit: I think this issue is related to older generation of video card, as I've tried again at friend's with Geforce 9500GS, then none of the display oddities came up


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@Gerhart, do you have also these black things on the Daughter of Amazon horses (DX9) and some heavy warhorses (can't remember names) , similar issue where Afterburner has made a thread on PoP?

Edited by Shjn, Aug 4 2009, 03:13:09 PM.
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Gerhart
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It seems the common factor in the items, with issues, is what they use for the shader. What they all have in common is they use either "bumpmap_interior" or "bump_static". I run a BFG 7800GS on my system.

Can this be an easy fix like the Armour shaders bug? I mean one that I could jump in the brf and correct myself?

@Shjn Not sure yet as I haven't run across any. I'll save another copy of my game, import a character and use some cheats to acquire some different equipment to see if I do. I know that I did in the last release but unsure in this one. I'll post my results as soon as possible.

EDIT: Just checked the horse you're speaking of, (yellow and white cover) and everything looked fine on my end.

Edited by Gerhart, Aug 5 2009, 05:40:36 AM.
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Gerhart
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I had a rather odd incident happen last night. One of those Knights came to challenge me to a duel but something else happened. Instead of any dialogue or options to type of duel, we (me and my army) were placed on a normal battlefield. Once he was killed I had a runtime error that crashed the game.
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+Rosha+
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I looked into the shaders, and all are how they are 'supposed' to be. My guess, sadly, is the video card. I hate to say that. If you could tell me what items that are causing problems, I might be able to remake them. I'm guessing they are caused by one sided polygons, but I'm basing that on the screen shot posted.
Sorry for the glitches there.

I seriously hope that no one else get's the problem with the token knights...that would be most distressing to me. Let me know if it happens again Gerhart and I'll dive back into that code.
Edited by Rosha, Aug 6 2009, 04:17:30 AM.
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Gerhart
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Do you want me to list all that I see in the Materials.brf, that show up black? If that's what you would like then as far as I've seen it's everything dealing with either the "bumpmap_interior" or "bump_static" being used.

Honestly, if you would like me to go through the brf and list each one, I have no problem with that.


EDIT: Because my game crashed on that Knight issue I got to start right where it left off, since I saved just before it.

This time the same thing happened, no dialogue with the normal battle options, so I chose "Leave". Once I did that THEN the "Challenge" dialogue came up BUT the Knight chose the weapon for the duel. Went into that duel, beat him and when I came out it read the normal "Victory!!! You have defeated 3 challengers" Continue...

When I pressed Continue all it did was increase the # of challengers I defeated, I did this until I got to 115 defeated challengers and then CTRL+ALT+Del out of the game.

Started it back up and used a "cheat" to transport myself away from the Knight so that it would take him some time to find me. After doing this I then got the normal challenge when he finally found me. I beat him and so for everything is back to normal.
Edited by Gerhart, Aug 6 2009, 06:07:19 AM.
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