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Warhammer 40000 Campaign; With prizes!
Topic Started: Dec 3 2008, 05:50 PM (1,116 Views)
Bennett
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I still would like to have pre set army list though as it stops people tailoring their armies to playing specific scenarios/opponents, i would just like to be ablet to submit an alternative before i know what game im playing if i want to add or remove units.
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Blood Bowl (Dwarfs) W-4 /D-2 /L-0
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vrykolakas
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yea i agree with pre writenlists but i dont hink it shoukd be the same through out the campaign
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I suppose that would be ok
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darth_bastard
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Even though i'm not taking part I see the need for pre written lists as paolo needs to check that things are fair. However I also see the need for tailoring as it is a vital part of learning to play and developing your army, especially if you haven't used it much.

One idea I had would be for each player to make as many lists as they see fit that are legal or you could put a max on it. So for instants I could create 3 different lists taliored for different gaming. Now during the campaign you could introduce senarios where when a battle is declared you decide wether you are caught by surprise or have pre-empted the attack. If you have pre-empted you can use any list that you have created, if you are caught by surprise you use the list you used in your last game.

This fits the story aspect but also develops tailoring and getting the most out of units that aren't tailored when you get caught by surprise.

So if you have to have a 500pt, 1000pt, 1500pt and 2000pt. You could have say the maximum of 1 500pt, 2 1000pt, 2 1500pt and 3 2000pt lists. As long as you keep a record of each game and what you used you can vary the list used depending on what happens.


So what do you think?
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LilD
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and I am going to experiment with my new army to see what works and what doesnt... so i will need to modify... considering that i am going to be buying my army bit by bit
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Bennett
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Gary's dad came up with the answer, before you know what game your playing you bring a pre written army list and show it to the person running the events that evening and say this is what army i am using this evening what game am i playing. (you obviously have pre written army list for 500, 1000, 1500 & 2000pts)

This doesnt stop any one from changing what they use however it does stop people changing their army to suit the mission/opponent being played.
Does the italian one agree?
Viridians W-6/D-0 /L-0
Empire W-2 /D-1 /L-1
Blood Bowl (Dwarfs) W-4 /D-2 /L-0
Greeks W-0/D-1 /L-0
Ultramarines W-7/D-3 /L-5
Tau W-0/D-2/L-1
Paolo's Orcs W-1/D-0/L-0
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darth_bastard
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This doesn't really work though bennet. Remember its map based, the player is going to have a good idea who he is going to attack next and can therefore plan for it. The only games they can't plan for is against a marauder. The player can also pre empt an attack from the players which are near his teritory hence if your really good you can plan for the most likley defence and attack your likley to recieve or give.

Having a senario to determine if you can use a different list I think is the fairist and story based way to do it.


Also note this is a competition too so it is likley that any experieced player will try and take out who he thinks is his biggest rival while they have a small teritory, juat like when playing DOW on the pc.[redit][/redit]
Edited by darth_bastard, Dec 20 2008, 01:46 PM.
Koralon W-0 /D-0 /L-2
Dark Elves W-4 /D-1 /L-2
Word Bearers W-1/D-0 /L-1
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darth_bastard
Dec 20 2008, 01:42 PM
This doesn't really work though bennet. Remember its map based, the player is going to have a good idea who he is going to attack next and can therefore plan for it. The only games they can't plan for is against a marauder. The player can also pre empt an attack from the players which are near his teritory hence if your really good you can plan for the most likley defence and attack your likley to recieve or give.

Having a senario to determine if you can use a different list I think is the fairist and story based way to do it.


Also note this is a competition too so it is likley that any experieced player will try and take out who he thinks is his biggest rival while they have a small teritory, juat like when playing DOW on the pc.[redit][/redit]
thta does mean that you stuck with the sanme army for the entire campaign and the same lists which means any body who buys a new model has to wait till the end of the campiagn to use it which would be rather anoying, and it also means ur stuck playing with the same army through out the campiagn and personally if i constanty use a particular army i get bord of army and wont use it for ages lol
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You could plan a list to face a particcular enemy but when you bring that one down and realise you have to in a matter of fact play a tottaly opposite type of army will put you in a very bad spot not to mentioned a litte red faced as well!

I think Garys' dad's idea is ballenced as it means you can copy and paste your army from week to week and leaves less strain on the pearson running it, but hay Im not to botherd as my army will be the same from week in to week out scouts, scouts and some more scouts and some on bikes to!
If someone is in my way then one of two things happen they either move or get eaten!!
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ogretyrant83
Dec 24 2008, 10:52 PM
You could plan a list to face a particcular enemy but when you bring that one down and realise you have to in a matter of fact play a tottaly opposite type of army will put you in a very bad spot not to mentioned a litte red faced as well!

I think Garys' dad's idea is ballenced as it means you can copy and paste your army from week to week and leaves less strain on the pearson running it, but hay Im not to botherd as my army will be the same from week in to week out scouts, scouts and some more scouts and some on bikes to!
i think that is guna be the best way to do it
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if you want to change your army list is has to stay the same for 5 consecutive games before amending it again... how about that... stops metagamers and gives the trial armies a chance
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hmm that sounds like an interesting idea, maybe not 5 games maybe 3?
Viridians W-6/D-0 /L-0
Empire W-2 /D-1 /L-1
Blood Bowl (Dwarfs) W-4 /D-2 /L-0
Greeks W-0/D-1 /L-0
Ultramarines W-7/D-3 /L-5
Tau W-0/D-2/L-1
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ogretyrant83
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Yeah that sounds cool
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3 games is fairer, this campaign is starting to get quite complex, does paolo know what hes let himself in for.

So far as i get it, we want it the chance to adapt army lists but to prevent metagaming. We have to produce a list for each points range to take on senarios set by the master which is a map based campaign based on dawn of war, where the objective is to take territories from your opponents to gain extras and then reduce your opponents down to there base location where they fight to stay in the campaign/competition in a bid to win a cash prize when you have control of everything.

Thought i would try to sum it up in my head, sounds good, please correct me if i'm wrong.
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Bennett
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it sounds more complicated than i recon it will be, once you have sorted out the first few weeks things should run some what smoothly, really the only thing that we have asked paolo to change from his original campaign is the army list options, which really is the players responsibility to have a written list, then all paolo needs to do it take a glance at it.

Are you going to start this directly after the new year paolo im quite looking foward to it.
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Empire W-2 /D-1 /L-1
Blood Bowl (Dwarfs) W-4 /D-2 /L-0
Greeks W-0/D-1 /L-0
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