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| Reboot.... or Remake?; that is the question. | |
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| Topic Started: Mar 31 2009, 03:43 PM (831 Views) | |
| Reptile | May 18 2009, 11:05 AM Post #31 |
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Oh right, oh well, since we all saw Dragonball Evolution we know the world is doomed anyway  |
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| Vegeta | May 18 2009, 01:24 PM Post #32 |
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At least that'll be more entertaining than the movie. While at the same time about as equally painful. |
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| Film Maker TKO | May 19 2009, 10:32 PM Post #33 |
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awww shut that sh*t up!!! |
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| superdedon | May 20 2009, 02:48 AM Post #34 |
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Come on Kaypain......you're crazy maaan.:shifty: No it's not. |
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| Frankie | May 20 2009, 03:23 PM Post #35 |
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[it's not gonna blow up. it's just the end of a great cycle.] i opened this thread and i say, it doesn't make any sense!!!1!11!! what? reboot or remake? that's the same thing in this case. the only answer is contained in two words. Harry. Potter. the first potter movie was about 11 year old kids in a magical world. and it was a huge f***ing success. dragonball is about kids, at least the beginning. goku is 7, bulma is 16, and yamcha is what, 18? that's it. to make it work it must be a harry potter. case closed. the end. fine. |
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Omnia enim stolidi magis admirantur amantque, inversis quae sub verbis latitantia cernunt, veraque constituunt quae belle tangere possunt auris et lepido quae sunt fucata sonore. Indeed, the stupid most admire and love all that is scarcely discernible, hidden by abstruse words, and accept as true all things that sweetly caress the ear, and that are masked by a pleasant sound. --Titus Lucretius, De Rerum Natura, circa 80 B.C.-- 
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| Son Goshin | May 20 2009, 08:05 PM Post #36 |
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Actually I believe Goku was 14 at the beginning. But still, it could be more of an adventure story with younger people if they chose to rebot it from the very beginning. But I think the better choice would be that no matter if they continue from this current movie or get a new cast/director/etc., they need to start with Z since this is what really got most people into the series and is what most casual fans associate DragonBall with. |
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| JFDwrites | May 20 2009, 09:33 PM Post #37 |
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Wow..lebanon...thats pretty positive of you...even if i know we are going to die!!!! |
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Just a little something i worked on...Im also working on other films...as well as an Ed poster.... http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff114/xiolinchidori/FullMetalA-1.jpg | |
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| JFDwrites | May 20 2009, 09:35 PM Post #38 |
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Frank you just made me have a male orgasm...after i read ur post... Its true thought...very true... |
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Just a little something i worked on...Im also working on other films...as well as an Ed poster.... http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff114/xiolinchidori/FullMetalA-1.jpg | |
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| Vadakin | May 21 2009, 07:18 AM Post #39 |
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I'm not sure that would work since both our egos would become so massive that we'd end up taking the budget and splitting it in half to make our own separate movies that would compete against each other...I'd win by the way  I'd actually start with the Saiyan Saga. It's probably the most straight forward of all the DB stories and the one most suited to a movie. And I'd do Buu...I'd make a few changes, but I think it could be pretty cool "war against heaven" kind of story. As for how I would shoot it and in what kind of world, it wouldn't be the real world, but it wouldn't be a full on fantasy world either. I'd set it in a parallel future...maybe 50-100 years from now. After a catastrophic war against the Red Ribbon Army (a war in which a mysterious "monkey boy" was the hero), the world finds itself in a time of relative peace and prosperity. Technological advancements from Capsule Corporation have improved living standards across the globe immensely. It's not a utopia, there are still criminals around, bad things still happen, but for the most part things are pretty peaceful. Until the day Piccolo was released from his prison, an event that starts a chain reaction that plays out through Dragonball Z. I'm not sure if it's in this thread, but I know I mentioned somewhere what I would do with a Piccolo movie. But given the choice I would start with the Saiyans. I'd open the movie with the fight against Piccolo Jr. at the tournament, the broadcast of which is picked up by Raditz in space. From there it's pretty straight forward. Yes, there is a lot of backstory to get through but I wouldn't just put it all in the first movie. For example, the Red Ribbon stuff wouldn't get a real recap until the Androids movie. As for how I would shoot it. I wouldn't do it like Avatar. There's no need to. There would certainly be some greenscreen stuff, especially with the fights, but I'd like to keep it as practical as possible. I'm very interested in shooting portions of the fights using high-speed cameras such as the Phantom. Yes, it allows you to do a convincing Matrix-style slo-mo effect but I'd also speed it up, use high speed cameras to actually make the fighters move quicker. It's a contradiction, but I think it will make quick movement seem more natural. I'd also alternate between moving the background behind them slowly and quickly to give a real sense of how quickly these guys are fighting. Also, when fighting in the air, I'd use the 3 dimensional aspect of space. The fighters wouldn't necessarily have to fight the right way up all the time. Since they are fighting in the air, someone like Goku or Vegeta, both of whom are skilled fighters, would realise that it may be worthwhile flipping upside down to throw your opponent off guard. Suddenly kicks are being blocked with punches and punches are being blocked with kicks. What I want is a dynamic look to the fighting that looks and feels as real as possible. The problem with the Matrix Revolutions fight was that the stuff in the air was kind of poor. When they were close together, they just rolled in the air and in wide shots, the ferocity of the fight was lost due to them looking small between the buildings. Unlike the DBE "fights" the focus wouldn't be on the Ki blasts. Most of the fights would involve physical contact, with Ki blasts being being used strategically, rather than the two fighters constantly lobbing them at each other. Oh and by the way, my Buu movie would be dark as hell 
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| BladeRunner | May 21 2009, 05:08 PM Post #40 |
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Its been awhile and imdb stil says that its in its script stage... so, I can pretty confidently say that its been shelved, probably indefinitely. But if not, Fox is probably f***ing with the script some more... at any rate, this thing will probably not get made for a couple years... good news I guess lol, still a part of me is weeping inside  Anyone still want this thing made? You know, if someone had the balls to make a spin off of Dragonball as an indie film and made it Cannes good, I wonder what would happen...
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| GokuJr82 | May 22 2009, 04:24 PM Post #41 |
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god, please NO. I didn't wait almost 5 years or more (I don't remember) to get this piece of sh*t they throwed us. We were so excited about dragonball being turned into live action, we had so much big expectations about what they could do with this story... and they f*** things up like that... If they make a sequel it's going to be like they are laughing at us... even more. |
 
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| Reptile | May 24 2009, 04:29 PM Post #42 |
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hehe what is this...a contest who's the best director for this flick? Ok you know what...sorry to burst your bubbels but I am the only one who can pull it off (yeah I said it  )...the sad thing is I haven't got the experience to lead the whole project so I doubt it will ever be mine to make, but I know exactly how to present it... I say, it CAN be done into three movies: DB - DBZ Saiyan saga - DBZ Freeza That's it. Focus on those three movies first will ya. It's the most perfect story out of the whole DB series. It's a full circle about a boy who came from planet vegeta to bring peace on earth, and after this brought peace into the galaxy by sacrificing his life while turning into the legendary super Saiyan, making an end of Freeza's empire and avenging a whole race from being slaughtered by him. Also Piccolo's and Vegeta's circle is complete. Piccolo reunites with his origin and vegeta finally took on Freeza himself and revealing why he is driven so mad of anger (my version). But then make sure every movie will be at least 2 and a half hours long to tell it right... Let the battle begin... 
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| Vadakin | May 24 2009, 05:14 PM Post #43 |
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I think the Saiyan Saga movie can be done in 2 hours. It's pretty straight forward. Frieza is another story though...you'd need to cut so much out and even change a few roles. For example, Goku...think about it. He does nothing. He's either in space or in a healing capsule for most of the story. He fights the Ginyu Force and Frieza and that's it. I'd start the movie with a flashback to Bardocks Last Stand against Frieza. It would actually be pretty epic. Bardock would lead a Saiyan army against Frieza while King Vegeta and a small squad infiltrate Frieza's ship. It would end with a lot of dead Saiyans. I'd want Frieza to be so evil that rather than lying to Vegeta about the fate of his world, he would actually make the young prince watch as he destroys the planet. It would end with Bardock screaming "Kakarot" as he dies...opening titles...cut to Goku in a hospital bed stuffing himself with hospital food. I'd actually drop the Ginyu Force...or at most give them a minor role. I'd want to focus on Frieza. Speaking of which, most of the Frieza Saga is just one big fight with Frieza fighting Vegeta, Krillin, Piccolo and Gohan and then Goku....and then SSJ Goku. Translate that to movie screentime, that's an hour, minimum...so that would need to change. I'm sure you'd all love an hour long battle but it's too long and would eventually get boring. I think what I'd do is combine the Ginyu fight with the Frieza fight. Also no body swapping. I'd have Frieza die as well. I don't want him to survive to be killed by Trunks because it cheapens Gokus victory. Trunks would show up at the end though. Goku gets back to Earth and Trunks is there to tell him about the Androids, and the movie would end with a warning of their impending arrival. The Androids movie would begin in the future, where we see what Trunks went through. Trunks would actually stay in the past and train for 3 years with Goku, rather than going back to his own time. Trunks would also die after the Cell Games and not be brought back to life because, as the dragon would say, he's already alive in the form of the baby Trunks. My Buu movie would be dark as hell...literally. It would open with a summary of "the time before time" when the Kai's, guardians of existence, commissioned the wizard Babadi (no Bibidi) to create a protector for the newly formed universe. Babadi though creates Majin Buu, a creature filled with all of the evil of the past, present and future, and seeks to destroy the new existence. There is a massive war with the Kai's who eventually prevail. Buu is sealed away and Babadi is sent to hell. 14 billion years later, Babadi has escaped hell with the aid of Dabura and has set about exacting his revenge by releasing Buu. Rather than coming back to compete in the tournament, Goku is actually sent back to Earth to take on Babadi and Buu. But the dead can only exist in the corporeal world for a single day and when Vegeta comes under the influence of Babadi, Goku realises he won't have enough time to stop Buu himself, so he resolves to entrust the safety of the Earth and the universe to his sons, with Goten learning the fusion technique with Trunks while Gohan travels to the world of the Kai's to train under the First Supreme Kai (old Kai). As for Buu himself, there would be no Fat Buu. It would be Super Buu and Kid Buu. The whole thing of Mr. Satan convincing Buu not to fight anymore would still be there in some form, though not as prominent. Essentially, Buu is pure evil. It's all he's ever known. Hercule shows him compassion and for a moment it seems that Buu is beginning to realise there is another way to exist but it doesn't last long as he is soon attacked and all hell breaks loose. I would keep some of Buu's humour but for the most part it would be very dark. Rather than a battle to save Earth or to save the Nameks, this would be a battle to save existence itself. |
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| Reptile | May 28 2009, 05:27 AM Post #44 |
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yeah I agree about the Namek/Freeza saga, altough they're about three seasons, there isn't happening that much. So this could easly be told in one movie. It's in my eyes the last chapter that follows the search of the Dragonballs on Namek by Vegeta, Krillin and Gohan , Piccolo and Goku. You can also tell the Bardock story throughout the movie so the people will understand what was going on on planet Vegeta before it blew up. I agree too that Goku doesn't do much on Namek then recovering from the Saiyan saga and the ginyu force. So I guess some things could be changed to make it a better adaptation. It's also a bit too much that Goku came with another space ship where he does nothing then train and eat and just walks out on Namek like "yep here I am folks"... AlI also thought the same way about young vegeta. I go even further, Freeza let him watch how his father got murdered by freeza himself. That's why vegeta becomes the man we all know (in my eyes). Such a powerful warrior but was helpeless and outrageous cause he couldn't do anything to avenge his father and all the Saiyans... So this needs a little work to look good on the big screen (IF they ever adapt it of course). |
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| Vadakin | May 28 2009, 05:26 PM Post #45 |
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I did think about having vegeta be forced to kill his father himself by Frieza but I thought that was a bit too far By the way...DBZ Abridged...in 10 8-minute episodes they've pretty much summed up the Saiyan Saga, even though it is a parody |
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