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H.R. 1966; Offend Someone Online - Go To Prison
Topic Started: May 19 2009, 12:41 AM (180 Views)
Adam	May 19 2009, 12:41 AM Post #1
Night Shift Admin Posts: 2,067 Group: Admin Member #17 Joined: April 16, 2006	The House of Representatives is trying to sneak a new Bill past that would make offending anyone online a FELONY that could result in 2 years in Federal Prison. Quote: Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to a person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both. http://futurestorm.blogspot.com/2009/05/hr-1966-offend-someone-online-go-to.html



Son Goshin	May 19 2009, 01:19 AM Post #2
Playoff Mutton Chops Posts: 6,212 Group: Head Admin Member #8 Joined: April 9, 2006	LOL! What? Can they really pass this? I don't see how this can even happen. I guess cyber bullying is really a problem.



SaiyanPride	May 19 2009, 01:35 AM Post #3
Battle Angel Posts: 184 Group: Members Member #82 Joined: May 12, 2006	Uh-oh better watch what you say. As if you can't walk away from something online.



Maffy	May 19 2009, 03:26 AM Post #4
Super Saiyan Posts: 2,711 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: July 5, 2006	lol Good luck with that.
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Stryyder	May 19 2009, 10:09 AM Post #5
Forum Cynic Posts: 2,447 Group: Admin Member #7 Joined: April 9, 2006	I think this is being blown way out of proportion. We're not talking about offending someone as in, making fun of them. "with the intent to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to a person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior" This is, obviously, in response to the Megan Meier trial. A grown woman created a myspace personality to harass Megan, a local teenager, which ultimately lead to Megan's suicide. The woman got a slap on the wrist because we have no laws governing the internet in this fashion. This is equittable to laws about stalking, harassment, and child abuse. The fact that they are not physical online does not mean they are not present or damaging. The person who wrote that article is either an idiot who doesn't know how to read, or some ACLU lapdog who rants at the first hint of something that can be attached to the government trying to regulate free speech. They are purposefully putting an untrue spin on it which is, in my opinion, unethical. And for anyone who says "well it's the internet, no one is supposed to take this stuff seriously", or "she was stupid for believing the whole hoax", please don't be that ignorant. This is the 21st century, 2009. The internet is now an actual community hub that is becoming the principal social outlet of the world especially teenagers. This thing is just as real as any schoolyard, bar or other social scene where this stuff can happen. Edited by Stryyder, May 19 2009, 10:20 AM.



chaoslord	May 19 2009, 10:37 AM Post #6
Autobot Posts: 818 Group: Members Member #63 Joined: May 11, 2006	Stryyder May 19 2009, 10:09 AM ... This is, obviously, in response to the Megan Meier trial. A grown woman created a myspace personality to harass Megan, a local teenager, which ultimately lead to Megan's suicide. The woman got a slap on the wrist because we have no laws governing the internet in this fashion. This is equittable to laws about stalking, harassment, and child abuse. The fact that they are not physical online does not mean they are not present or damaging. ... And for anyone who says "well it's the internet, no one is supposed to take this stuff seriously", or "she was stupid for believing the whole hoax", please don't be that ignorant. This is the 21st century, 2009. The internet is now an actual community hub that is becoming the principal social outlet of the world especially teenagers. This thing is just as real as any schoolyard, bar or other social scene where this stuff can happen. Well put. Before hearing of Megan Meier I would have been laughing at the ridiculousness of it. But, ever since then my views on the subject have definitely changed. The woman who did that deserved to have the book thrown at her, and didn't. Something needed to change. I'm glad the House is trying to get this through, its about time.



Del	May 19 2009, 11:10 AM Post #7
Kami Posts: 9,079 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: April 10, 2006	I agree that there should be laws to protect people from harassment through the internet to prevent things like the Megan Meier situation. But I think that those that are a bit apprehensive of this bill have a sort of valid point, as in fear that a bill like this could just be the first phases toward further government regulation of the internet. Personally I support this bill but will be leery of any other future bills of the like.



Stryyder	May 19 2009, 11:57 AM Post #8
Forum Cynic Posts: 2,447 Group: Admin Member #7 Joined: April 9, 2006	True enough, but fear of what "might" happen can't really be used as a solid arguement. Sadly that's what has kept companies from enforcing stricter rules on Video Games. Why are people over 18 voting to let kids play games like GTA, Wolverine (PS3 version is EXTREMELY graphic), Mark Ecko's Getting Up, and other mature games? Just doesn't make sense to me. But they are afraid that it will pave the way to governmental control of video game content. Honestly it is just unfounded fears that have no basis, but that kind of doomsday argument always finds its target because everyone is afraid of the government, thinking it is just waiting for the opportunity to control us. In short, I don't think this will, in any way, lead to governmental internet control. It can't. This is a worldwide thing that is bigger than any single government could handle, regulate, or police.



GT	May 19 2009, 12:07 PM Post #9
Super Saiyan Posts: 2,720 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: April 9, 2006	...Im going to go to jail? =O
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Stryyder	May 19 2009, 04:36 PM Post #10
Forum Cynic Posts: 2,447 Group: Admin Member #7 Joined: April 9, 2006	yes, but I'm sure it's for reasons other than this, knowing you



Nannerpus	May 19 2009, 04:42 PM Post #11
Super Saiyan Posts: 4,062 Group: Members Member #167 Joined: July 5, 2006	Very kind of you to say. I agree that the internet is now a community of its own. I don't see anything wrong with the bill, considering all of the creeps that find themselves on the internet.
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Maffy	May 19 2009, 05:13 PM Post #12
Super Saiyan Posts: 2,711 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: July 5, 2006	Well, one thing is for sure. 4chan is f*cked.
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JayBee	May 19 2009, 06:24 PM Post #13
Super Saiyan Posts: 2,802 Group: Members Member #45 Joined: April 24, 2006	theres no real reason to be worried about this law tbh. i mean like has already been said this is a worldwide community, i mean i could still break this law on this website and not get it classed as a felony because im in england. don't care about this law, there are far more important things you could be worrying about, like wheres over 1/3 of your bank bail-out money gone?
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Adam	May 22 2009, 10:14 AM Post #14
Night Shift Admin Posts: 2,067 Group: Admin Member #17 Joined: April 16, 2006	Stryyder May 19 2009, 10:09 AM I think this is being blown way out of proportion. We're not talking about offending someone as in, making fun of them. "with the intent to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to a person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior" This is, obviously, in response to the Megan Meier trial. A grown woman created a myspace personality to harass Megan, a local teenager, which ultimately lead to Megan's suicide. The woman got a slap on the wrist because we have no laws governing the internet in this fashion. This is equittable to laws about stalking, harassment, and child abuse. The fact that they are not physical online does not mean they are not present or damaging. I agree that the intentions of this law are good, but it's the way it could be used that is scary. Lets say for example a new member, some little 10-12 year old kid, signs up on the forum and spams the board nothing terrible just won't stop posting stupid comments to try and get his post count up. Another member gets angry and makes several angry post telling him to stop all around the board. The kid tells his mom someone won't leave him alone online and boom your under investigation for online bullying. Or even better some ass says he's had substantial emotional distress caused by you and all the sudden your under investigation, and you haven't done a thing. Now I understand that in a situation like that nothing would probably happen to you the kid would probably be in more trouble then you would be but the simple fact that you could face investigation is what is scary. Yes I know it is the 21st century, but our government of 50-80 year old men have no idea what they hell it is. The person in charge calls the internet a series of tubes for gods sakes. Do you want someone that thinks the internet is a series of tubes telling you how you can use those tubes. Edited by Adam, May 22 2009, 10:15 AM.



Vegeta	May 22 2009, 10:23 AM Post #15
Kneel Before Your Prince! Posts: 4,309 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: April 16, 2006	Everyone on youtube is going to jail. lol I agree with Stryyder. To a lot of kids these days the internet is more real than real life. I'd be willing to bet that most kids (and people in general for that matter) spend more time talking to people on the internet in a day then they do in real life all week. I do believe that Tlaloc would fall under violation of this new law though.
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