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contradictions; can you see any
Topic Started: May 20 2009, 08:05 AM (501 Views)
JayBee	May 20 2009, 08:05 AM Post #1
Super Saiyan Posts: 2,802 Group: Members Member #45 Joined: April 24, 2006	a place for careful consideration of human reactions to events which seem wholly contradictory i'll start we seem to live in a liberal society where we say that people are now basically free agents within a society. but then why do we sue people over health and safety issues in cases where the person they sue had nothing to do with the accident example 1 people who sue fast food chains for making them fat... excuse me but no one put a gun to your head and told you to do it. your free agents who chose to eat sub-human food. example 2 someone trips and work and hurts themselves. if no one pushed you then why should you be able to sue the place you worked for. look out more often. of course this is different to say eating food from somewhere and it containing cyanide or something similar. though in that case you might be dead and unable to sue but you get my meaning. health and safety is only on a corporation in that they assess and make you aware of the risks of a place. it is up to you to follow those or not.
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Nannerpus	May 20 2009, 10:00 AM Post #2
Super Saiyan Posts: 4,062 Group: Members Member #167 Joined: July 5, 2006	Agreed. If you have been eating at McDonald's every single day of the week for years of your life, and you find out your cholesterol is through the roof, you have heart disease, high blood pressure, and diabetes, it isn't McDonald's fault. You just happen to be a fat ass. I will say this about getting injured at a hospital- if someone did a pissy job in helping you carry a 400 lb patient across beds, and someone slipped and the bed (which itself can weigh well over 200 lbs) falls on your foot, then I think you should be allowed to get some money, especially if the injury interferes with how you perform your job. But if someone was being a putz and running around on slick, hospital tile, and happened to slip and/or fall in the process, well they can stuff it.
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Shinrin	May 20 2009, 12:02 PM Post #3
Super Saiyan Posts: 1,389 Group: Members Member #24 Joined: April 16, 2006	heard a story about a theef that due to the dark tripped and fell through a glass table ended up sueing that familly. Or what about the woman that supposingly sued a Microwave company for not informing in there folders not to dry cats with microwaves
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Eris	May 20 2009, 03:10 PM Post #4
Super Saiyan Posts: 1,400 Group: Members Member #86 Joined: May 12, 2006	There are other exceptions to the work example, besides the previously mentioned ones. For instance, if someone gets badly injured at work because something wasn't 'regulation'. As in loose tiles, carpet bumps, water leak in the bathroom, unsteady steps, etc. Things that the company should take care of as to not put their employees in danger and then get blamed/sued. :p I've seen some of this stuff around in some work places, so I thought I'd include it.
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Stryyder	May 20 2009, 03:13 PM Post #5
Forum Cynic Posts: 2,447 Group: Admin Member #7 Joined: April 9, 2006	And suing starbucks for them not having "caution: hot" on their cups and you burn yourself when you spill. I always loved the swedish chainsaw warning label "do not attempt to stop chainsaw with hands or genitals". Gotta be a great story behind that. But yeah, as Dani said, there's a difference between negligent behavior and unsafe workplace. My favorite is "equal rights" activists who whine for special treatment. They want equality of the sexes, equality of races, but then they want to be treated differently because of their gender or race. Blacks and whites should be equal, but any time a black person is arrested Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson jump in saying he was only arrested because of his race and he should be aquitted because of it, regardless of the physical evidence.



simpsonfreak	May 20 2009, 03:29 PM Post #6
Autobot Posts: 937 Group: Members Member #358 Joined: January 11, 2007	ya that lady with the coffee won like a million dollars i think that is complete bull because there is such thing as common sense
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Stryyder	May 20 2009, 05:56 PM Post #7
Forum Cynic Posts: 2,447 Group: Admin Member #7 Joined: April 9, 2006	It's not a question of common sense anymore, it's "how can I get something for nothing?".



JayBee	May 20 2009, 06:14 PM Post #8
Super Saiyan Posts: 2,802 Group: Members Member #45 Joined: April 24, 2006	now in england there putting signs outside graveyards telling you to be careful and not trip over any of them... i mean come on! im not so much angry at the people who do this, cos their only covering their asses but the fact they have to go to such extreme lengths, even extending to realms where common sense should be enough just to not get sued. i kinda feel sorry for them, or atleast i would if they weren't still making millions upon millions.
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Thrash Til' Death	May 20 2009, 06:16 PM Post #9
"You will love Avatar! YOU WILL LOVE AVATAR!" Posts: 5,385 Group: Admin Member #3 Joined: April 9, 2006	I've got a book of quotations with an entire chaper of things like these. I think my favourite has to be the sign that says "Do not drop" on a Boeing 777.
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JayBee	May 20 2009, 06:19 PM Post #10
Super Saiyan Posts: 2,802 Group: Members Member #45 Joined: April 24, 2006	haha. but to be fair like you say these kinda things can be listed all day. i kinda only wanted to get the ball rolling with the whole health and safety thing, so lets see if we can find another contradictive issue. pro-lifers murdering doctors at abortion clinics anyone? just throwing it out there.
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Thrash Til' Death	May 20 2009, 06:23 PM Post #11
"You will love Avatar! YOU WILL LOVE AVATAR!" Posts: 5,385 Group: Admin Member #3 Joined: April 9, 2006	English lit scholars who spend decades looking for layers of meaning in Shakespeare's plays, when they were written first and foremost to be entertaining. Hell, Shakespeare only got into writing plays because they were more profitable than poetry, which he was originally enamoured with. Also, there's a contradiction present in this very post, as I'm on an English lit course.
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JayBee	May 20 2009, 06:51 PM Post #12
Super Saiyan Posts: 2,802 Group: Members Member #45 Joined: April 24, 2006	omg so i am! we should meet and exchange notes! even though i did the exam today and failed hard. but dont get Jake started on the whole reading too deep thing. he absolutly hated having to analyse the feelings of the poet during an exam. and i agree too much emphasis is given to very small details. but its i think only because these works have been around so long that the more basic analyses have long been established. i mean who'd find it a shocker to hear there was an underlying and to be fair very central theme of racism in Othello? and heres a contradiction i wanna hear some feedback on from the Americans here why do working class middle-state americans vote republican which is clearly really the party of the rich when coastal and northern states more suited to the wealthier man seem to lean to the democrats, the historic party of the working? to be honest i know, or atleast have a good idea after reading a book written on the issue called "Whats The Matter With America? : the resistable rise of the american right." but i've never been able to ask an american what its like. Edited by JayBee, May 20 2009, 06:55 PM.
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Thrash Til' Death	May 20 2009, 06:59 PM Post #13
"You will love Avatar! YOU WILL LOVE AVATAR!" Posts: 5,385 Group: Admin Member #3 Joined: April 9, 2006	JayBee May 20 2009, 06:51 PM omg so i am! we should meet and exchange notes! even though i did the exam today and failed hard. but dont get Jake started on the whole reading too deep thing. he absolutly hated having to analyse the feelings of the poet during an exam. and i agree too much emphasis is given to very small details. but its i think only because these works have been around so long that the more basic analyses have long been established. i mean who'd find it a shocker to hear there was an underlying and to be fair very central theme of racism in Othello? We were doing Conrad's "Heart of Darkness" as a central text this semester. I absolutely love that book, but the over-analysis thing is doubly true for texts as amorphous as that one, to the extent that the lecture essentially consisted of an itemised list of the various and completely different ways its been interpreted. Political readings, existential readings, epistemological readings... you name it, someone's thought of it. Truth is, with "death of the author" in effect, a text can be none of these things and all of them at once. You find whatever it is you're looking for, really.
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JayBee	May 20 2009, 07:02 PM Post #14
Super Saiyan Posts: 2,802 Group: Members Member #45 Joined: April 24, 2006	i know, thats what were always told "you've got to PEE in your exam" and that point, evidence, explain. basically say whatever your trying to say, give some evidence you think backs it up and analyse and explain that evidence. pretty basic. but i am proud to say that since i actually did no revision, had not done the coursework and had no intention of passing english i was able to i think give a good argument that Charles Dickins was gay and Oliver Twist and Great Expectations prove it
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Thrash Til' Death	May 20 2009, 07:05 PM Post #15
"You will love Avatar! YOU WILL LOVE AVATAR!" Posts: 5,385 Group: Admin Member #3 Joined: April 9, 2006	My tip for writing a good English essay: conclude as inconclusively as you possibly can.
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