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| Thrash Til' Death | Jun 11 2009, 07:20 PM Post #31 |
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^Actually, if anything the American poor are probably worse off. It has to do with notions of the capitalist/social democracy dichotomy. Since WWII, Britain has been dedicated to the "welfare state", and the maintenance of a basic standard of living for the working poor and the unemployed. America has a different ideal at its heart however, what I guess you might call the American Dream. There's a greater emphasis on your side of the pond for taking responsibility for your own actions, more meritocracy and a less interventionist government. And that has a lot to be said for it, but for those who do fail... well, they're left with a more fragile safety net. |
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| JayBee | Jun 12 2009, 07:08 AM Post #32 |
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not really, like America theres probably a few but in world terms i wouldn't say so no. and Uni's over here cost money as well. its only Colleges that don't. so like i thought and so must Thrash Highschool in America is the same as when we say College. Uni's are the same. |
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| Otaku_Kawaii86 | Jun 23 2009, 09:04 PM Post #33 |
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In America, Universities are colleges. College in general is considered "advanced schooling past graduating from grade school" (kindergarten through 12th grade, about 17 or 18 years old.) If I'm not mistaken, universities (which cost A LOT) and community colleges (which are usually more affordable and not as big) give degrees in all areas- medicine, art, politics, what have you. Technical schools and other Institutes specify in specific areas, such as Engineering and Technology (ex. ITT Tech). Or perhaps art, like The Art Institutes or Savannah College of Art and Design (SCAD.) Harvard and Yale are considered "Ivy-League Colleges" or "Ivy-League School." I think they fall under universities, because they have medicine, law, design, and other areas of interest. Anyways- Americans who are considered "poor" in the eyes of Federal workers and city-goers may be considered "well-off" in the country. I believe the status of "poor" is making below $20,000/yr. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. What I want to know is why you assume the majority of "poor" people in America are perceived, not "real." There are a ton a poor people living in America, but not all qualify as severe poverty. It is true the media makes things out to be larger than they are most of the time. But there are many homeless people who live under bridges, in tents, and on-the-go because they don't have shelter. Heritage.org had a whole bunch of statistics about the quality of the poor living America. TV, food, electronic devices. What they failed to point out is how the people got their items. Did they work double the hours at work? Did they have to go to a donation center or the dump? Were they gifts? Were they stolen? Yeah, America certaintly isn't Africa when looking at poverty levels, but it does exist here too. It came off as a bit slap-in-the-face to those who really do have it tougher than others coming from someone who doesn't even live in the same country. I'm lucky enough to not have that lifestyle, but I felt I should speak out for those who do. Contradiction: (Despite my love for my country) America promising freedom and liberty to all, although originally people were enslaved, kicked off their land. Today, we have the freedom to speak our mind, but we don't always have access to speak where we'd like. Another one: (And I get this from the song "Signs" by the Five Man Electrical Band) We don't always have the right to go where we please if we don't have memberships or a lot of money to "fit in." And another one: Any sort of church leader sexually abusing a child. Or a school that abuses and mistreats students while the students are in that school for the same actions. (<--- Referring to the Irish school that was in question this month.) |
 
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| Vegeta | Jun 25 2009, 01:20 PM Post #34 |
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I suppose if you compare many of the poor in the United States (or any country for that matter) to those in a third world country then the term poor does become a bit more perceived, depending on the group you're looking at. I mean a family who has a roof over their heads and is supported by welfare for their food, and lives paycheck to paycheck to pay the other bills may be looked upon as poor by the wealthier, but not be looked upon as poor to those that don't have those things. Those things could seem like luxuries. But at the same time there are still people in the United States that don't have roofs over their heads, that aren't supported by the government, and that are starving too. There are still children starving here just as there are there. They just don't make commercials about them. People who have to rummage through trash cans to eat. Whole families that have nothing at all. But that's not just the United States. Every country has homeless. Almost every country has families who live pay check to pay check and might be supported by the government with welfare like benefits. But the idea that some of these people are somehow different just because they live in the United States is quite ridiculous. |
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| Ordaned1 | Jul 5 2009, 05:18 PM Post #35 |
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