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Spohn front End K-Member kit.; How to...with pics...
Topic Started: May 10 2009, 10:39 PM (3,321 Views)
klowny
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Ok so I decided to take pics of the install, cause alot of you guys were asking me to see this done..So since im a nice clown..I obliged..u guyz now owe me :angry: :manny:

lol..anywayz..For the guy I spoke to on saturday: There are six bolts that hold the k-Member to the front frame of the car..and I used an impact gun to get all of them out in a snap..

Step by step:

1) disconnect the brake lines at the caliper end..
2)take the tie rods off
3) take the spindle off with the shock and brakes (all one piece)
4) unbolt the brake lines all along the k-member
5) unbolt six bolts that bolt the kmember to the frame

At the last step the whole kmember drops to the floor...Ofcoarse there are other ways of doing this but this is my way..and remember, i did not use a lift and jacked the motor up using a board and jack under the motor pan...the biggest bitch in this project so far was disconnecting the brake lines all along the kmember..you need some ratcheting wrenches and real skinny fingers...all this work took me about one day..but i bs'd alot also..im thinking one more day to install the new kmember and coilover/ control arm kit..and done...So two days total..enjoy the pics...next week I will post up the install..

one more thing...i also took my sway bar off and I reinstalled my wonder bar...now I had read a thread on TGO that some guy had problems with his frame not being straight and couldn't install the kmember...well i figure if i keep the wonderbar tightly bolted up, then the front part of the car will not seperate apart when you take the stock kmember out...it might have worked, cause at the end of the day i mocked up the new kmember and it looks like everything aligns perfectly....just something I thought i'd share here...cause like i said i'm a good clown.. :angry: :manny:


my car in my garage:

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taking the shock and the spindle/brakes out in one shot:

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I left the control arms on with the stock kmember:

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Dropped the bitch:

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ready for tthe install:

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Will be continued.......



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Lemme get those struts. ;)
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they are over ten years old ..im gonna throw them away..u still want them?..they are kyb's gas...



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whyd u paint it red?
fcuken camaros..first u love em then it breaks and u hate em then u think u fix it so u think u love it again but in reality its always broke and u still lvoe it but ud still like to drive it into a wall
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No no no my son, brand new!!

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spohn powder coated it red for me...I always thought red suspension pieces look evil...besides.. my torque arm/rear lcas/ drag bar/front control arms are also all red...also...whenever i run someone over....let's say maybe someone who owns a black thirdgen or sumthin...then their blood blends in... :werd:



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Wait, you didn't get the new one Manny?

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May 11 2009, 12:08 AM
they are over ten years old ..im gonna throw them away..u still want them?..they are kyb's gas...

Uhh..... How did they ride? I bet they are better than the ones in my Camaro. Those shits look completely stock.
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sorry for the confusion..yeah everything im putting in is brand new...all tubular..lighter and way stronger..


http://www.spohn.net/shop/1982-1992-GM-F-B...er-Package.html


that's what i have...it's all chrome molly and spherical rod ended too..the whole kit and kaboodle...front coilovers/ tokiko five way adjustables, qa1 springs...everything....



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May 11 2009, 12:21 AM
Manolis1969
May 11 2009, 12:08 AM
they are over ten years old ..im gonna throw them away..u still want them?..they are kyb's gas...

Uhh..... How did they ride? I bet they are better than the ones in my Camaro. Those shits look completely stock.

they were ok...but ur better off buying new...they are cheap..dunno it's up to you..



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I dont know. I'll give you a final answer tomorrow.
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1987 Toyota 4Runner Turbo:
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1987 Nissan Maxima SE
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Nice clown boy!!! Lucky charms is looking good i almost feel intimidated oh wait i farted lmao j.k looks hot bro good luck with the build lmk if you need a hand i'll be happy to help :cheers:
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haa..thanks for the help..but .. looks like im ahead of the game so far..didn't expect to do this much in only one day... :rock:



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Great job so far.....any idea what the weight diff. is now that you have the stock K out? I could never get a straight answer from TGO about this. Some said the weight diff was 50lbs...some say less than 10 lbs....what is it? Also, are you using their spring perches or are you going coil-over?
>Missed you at the show....lots of clown cars!
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I was there to see Manny drop that stock anchor. This is an awesome mod. I can't wait to see him get the new K-Member in.
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May 11 2009, 06:28 AM
Great job so far.....any idea what the weight diff. is now that you have the stock K out? I could never get a straight answer from TGO about this. Some said the weight diff was 50lbs...some say less than 10 lbs....what is it? Also, are you using their spring perches or are you going coil-over?
>Missed you at the show....lots of clown cars!

Looking good manny...

Also, when you weight the stuff, remember to factor in the coilovers compared to the struts and springs and things like that....
I am also cutious in the weight reduction aspect.
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Awesome Manny. Keep documenting this build with details and good pics. I want to sticky this. so stay on topic ladies. ;)
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Thanks guyz...

Stan/Dennis... I will try to weigh everything this weekend..when i asked steve spohn he said about 40lbs..i think...No spring perches Stan, coilovers with QA1 springs (drag setup) and tokiko five way adjustables..the front control arms are also chrome molly and spherical rod ended..the whole thing priced out at $2,500.00 ...

Glean...I specially picked that blanky for you.. :D



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also on a sidenote...chrome molly is not only stronger than mild steel..but much lighter...so the weight reduction is probably a couple of pounds more vs. mild steel...



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finally mannysorus gettins some shit done....but i am gonna rub it in your face that it was a lot easier to do this with the drivetrain out....ehehehe....but the bad part is....i had to put the drivetrain back in so i guess win loose type deal....
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Lol...Truthfully though the biggest bitch so far were the brake lines that are clamped to the k-member..mannys sore ass loves blindly wrenching away with just feel...hey do u mind if I borrow ur wingman? I need someone to hold my new kmember in place while I bolt it in.. :smokingdope:



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its easy, you jus need a creeper lay down and put the k member on your chest have one bolt and washer in one hand and one in your mouth slide under head first watch the oil pan on your dome and catch the one bolt grab the other one out of your mouth and cath it on the other side.......thats how i did it....

and no you cannot barrow my wing man, hes my bitch, unless you buy him more expensive vodka then goergi.....
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May 11 2009, 12:45 PM
Thanks guyz...

Stan/Dennis... I will try to weigh everything this weekend..when i asked steve spohn he said about 40lbs..i think...No spring perches Stan, coilovers with QA1 springs (drag setup) and tokiko five way adjustables..the front control arms are also chrome molly and spherical rod ended..the whole thing priced out at $2,500.00 ...

Glean...I specially picked that blanky for you.. :D

>Looking forward to your next reports!
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Ok...Lemme start off by saying...I startied working on the bitch about 1-ish..and now it is 11:45 and im finally out of the garage.. :angry:

I'm uploading pics, so until they all upload i figure i'd give you guys a synopsis of the days events...With the help of my bro in law we put the new control arms on the new k-member and finally went underneath and bolted the k-Member in ..went in like butter...next step was to catch the motor mounts...ok....here is where i wanted to kill someone...we caught one side and then attacked the other side...problem was the other side was about 1/4 of an inch off...so we spent a couple of hours moving the motor around with a couple of pry bars...right when we thought he had a solution, that's when we realized that this shit was not gonna go in... :angry: :angry:

To me and my bro in law..it looks like i have to do some grinding and drilling on the motor bracket that is bolted to the motor...I will call Steve Spohn tomorrow and see what his take is on the issue...either way im gonna get that sucker in, I'll MAKE that shit go in..

I got a chance to weigh the stuff..ok stock k-member including control arms wieghs 50 LBS more than the tubular control arms with the tubular k-member...remember tho..i have chrome molly which is stronger and lighter than mild steel..i think it was like a $250 option...



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ready to install...control arms bolted in...and motor mounts also bolted up with urethane bushings...

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bolted up to the frame of the car...spohn supplied six shorter grade ten bolts..
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pic of control arm..
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and urs trully sliding underneath with the k-member... :manny:

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OK...I woke up this morning and I was playing back the situation i ran into last night...the stupid :manny: forgot that the mechanical fuel pump is hitting the k-Member on the passenger side...I'm pretty sure that's why the mounts do not line up..I also just got off the phone with Steve Spohn and he said that is probably it. :bang: :bang: .He also said not to get any motor mounts from autozone or anything..use the stock clamshell with urethane mounts..or solid..



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It's always the stupid little details that hold you back the most.

I expect to see the beast rolling by the time I get back with your sister from Jamaica. Manny, make it so!
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