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| heartofalion | Jul 11 2009, 09:58 PM Post #1 |
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Ok here is an option I have...a fourth gen camaro 6cyl stick.....1st question is would the tranny be able to hold the power of a slightly work up 350?? second what do I need to match it up..Just a bell house?? and do I have to buy it specially or can it come from another type of tranny like an auto??? |
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| fcukit33 | Jul 11 2009, 11:07 PM Post #2 |
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the gen1 trannys lik the 700r4 will bolt to an gen 3/4 engine..i think what ur talking bout is a 4l60e its basicly a conputer controlled 700r4 my boy hasone in his 4thgen but his is the later style with the 3800 series V6 if the tranny u have is a 4l60e thats what was paired with the LS1s and in teh vette it made 350 horse but idk if u wanting to put it in a 3rd gen ull need to computer controler EDIt Fcuk im sry thats teh automatic trannys |
| fcuken camaros..first u love em then it breaks and u hate em then u think u fix it so u think u love it again but in reality its always broke and u still lvoe it but ud still like to drive it into a wall | |
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| L98_Z28 | Jul 11 2009, 11:44 PM Post #3 |
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It wont work. The V6 Input shaft has less splines on it. |
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| rustrider73 | Jul 12 2009, 02:50 AM Post #4 |
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you need to use the 8 cylinder bellhousing and flywheel and you can get a conversion clutch and pressure plate from Mark at Falcon Clutch in Deer Park |
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| black83zee | Jul 12 2009, 09:36 AM Post #5 |
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>You need a T-5 that's made for a chevy V8...mustang T-5's won't work either.....26 spline input shaft! Important! 26 spline input has the correct size nose that fits into the end of the crankshaft of a V8 with a pilot bearing. The splines fit the disk of the clutch. You'll see all V8 clutch discs are 26 spline for our sbc cars. V6 T-5's also have different insides which are weaker than the ones made for the V8. Ask me any T-5 Q's 'cause I have one in my car that I bought and rebuilt myself in my apartment! So I know all you're going to encounter! >Also, as far as power...T-5's from'89 on are stronger than the earlier ones...different internals. Known as World Class T-5's vs the older Non-World Class. Generally, they are rated at around 300hp and 300 tq...but they will last behind even a 400hp motor...just depends on how abusive you drive, tires....They're a good, cheap manual trannie. Realize that unless you live in the 5000 rpm world all the time, the drivetrain only sees part of the motors potential.....cruising speed only means your motor only puts out maybe 150-200hp! So in short....yea, your T-5 will handle a 400hp motor. >Get this book! Must reading!
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| heartofalion | Jul 12 2009, 03:00 PM Post #6 |
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Guys thanks alot.....there is a guy at work that drives a 80"s corolla rear wheel (gave details for Sam, he would like that) who told me he has a Z28 sitting in his aunts house with a T5 so I am hoping for that instead....Black zee thanks and if its cool I will PM you questions ( A bunch of them lol ) As far as motor goes its a 350 out of an 84' Burban bored .20 over. Needs to be line honed but the motor as it was (carbed) pushed roughly 360-370 I will be porting and polishing the heads ( 305 heads for increased compression) and adding TPI to the motor hopefully expecting 400hp...Zee should I be looking to strengthen the internals of the T5? |
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| rustrider73 | Jul 12 2009, 03:58 PM Post #7 |
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what are you doing with that 6cyl stick tranny let me know if you are getting rid of it |
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| heartofalion | Jul 12 2009, 04:03 PM Post #8 |
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i did not buy the tranny yet...this thread is advise to help me make the decision on what to buy....if you want I can give you the link guy is selling a 6 cyl 4th gen.....no motor just tranny and int. $700 |
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| black83zee | Jul 12 2009, 05:06 PM Post #9 |
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>If you want a beefier T-5...go here: http://www.gforcetransmissions.com/tran_gt-5.asp Depends on how deep your pockets are! If you're cheap like me the rebuilt stock T-5 will be fine. You're not racing it are you? See if you can find the lighter vette flywheel ( 16lbs vs. 30lbs. for the camaro flywheel ) Less rotating mass means more hp to the wheel and faster spool-up of motor. >Please feel free to ask Q's.... |
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| heartofalion | Jul 12 2009, 07:56 PM Post #10 |
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By racing does eating honda chiclets and acura craps oh and 88 toyota supras on the streets count as racing?? |
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| black83zee | Jul 12 2009, 08:05 PM Post #11 |
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>Yes! And if you plan on putting stickies in the back you better get that rear beefed up as well! |
350, carb, headers, side exhaust, T-5, aluminum ds, Baer discs, Bilsteins, tubular a-arms, tubular torque arm, adjustable track bar and control arms. | |
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| heartofalion | Jul 12 2009, 08:07 PM Post #12 |
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lol I figured I thought sam would like that...lol...ok so I went to that site I just need to know the price either for the kit work or one already done...would you happen to know??? |
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| black83zee | Jul 12 2009, 08:24 PM Post #13 |
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>Not sure...but I think the built ones go for $1800...but the gears are hardened and made of thicker steel! Not cheap. The problem with the kits are your T-5 has to be the World Class ones...they don't make kits for the NWC T-5's....what year was the T-5 you were thinking of getting? You should call them and ask them if they rebuild V6 WC T-5's with parts to get it to fit 350's. |
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| heartofalion | Jul 12 2009, 09:14 PM Post #14 |
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Not sure of the year yet...ill fid out more tomorrow hopefully...and thats a great idea about the v6 t5..thanks |
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| klowny | Jul 12 2009, 10:03 PM Post #15 |
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if you ever plan on putting slicks and hooking ur car..then i would definately say get a rear...it wont be a bad idea to get one now too though just for safety measures... Stan..do you like Jericos? |
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| heartofalion | Jul 12 2009, 11:01 PM Post #16 |
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I am also looking for a 4th gen rear....seen any for sale??? kinda broke so hope its not too expensive..... |
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| black83zee | Jul 13 2009, 06:39 AM Post #17 |
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>Jericos...the NASCAR trannie...very nice....very expensive too! Manny, I don't have your scratch! The good thing about the T-5 is they were made for our cars...and they have odd features such as the whole trannie is mounted with a tilt or rotation! That's one reason why you can't use the Mustang T-5 in a Camaro...So trying to fit some other trannie on it would require a special kit or parts to be made=more expense! And since I'm cheap and would like to spend my money on other go-fast parts I'll stick with the T-5....you can buy beefed up units now that just bolt-up! Even race ones with straight gears and huge dog ring teeth! >4th gen rears aren't any stronger than your 7.5" 10 bolt now! >Checkout the diff in the beefed up G-Force gears in their T-5's (stock is on the left! )
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350, carb, headers, side exhaust, T-5, aluminum ds, Baer discs, Bilsteins, tubular a-arms, tubular torque arm, adjustable track bar and control arms. | |
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| klowny | Jul 13 2009, 08:48 AM Post #18 |
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Straight cut is nice...they also coat the gears for extra strength |
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| black83zee | Jul 13 2009, 12:33 PM Post #19 |
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>Straight cut is stronger and easier to shift, but they're way louder! Anybody want whine? |
350, carb, headers, side exhaust, T-5, aluminum ds, Baer discs, Bilsteins, tubular a-arms, tubular torque arm, adjustable track bar and control arms. | |
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| heartofalion | Jul 13 2009, 07:43 PM Post #20 |
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4th gen is 2 inches wider though |
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| Formula388 | Jul 13 2009, 08:17 PM Post #21 |
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Ill just get a girlfriend if i want to hear whining... |
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| heartofalion | Jul 13 2009, 09:29 PM Post #22 |
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| black83zee | Jul 14 2009, 06:31 AM Post #23 |
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>That's harsh, Dennie! |
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| Spade | Jul 14 2009, 06:57 AM Post #24 |
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| admin_glen | Jul 14 2009, 07:53 AM Post #25 |
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Or get married and the whinning turns to bitching.... |
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| klowny | Jul 14 2009, 11:15 AM Post #26 |
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Well it's like this guys...Women are like babies...once the baby starts to cry you just shove a pacifier in its mouth..and the crying goes away...Well..the same goes for women..once they start to bitch and whine..you stick your pacifier in her mouth...
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| Spade | Jul 14 2009, 11:20 AM Post #27 |
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Hate to say it but the clown is right! |
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| admin_glen | Jul 14 2009, 11:43 AM Post #28 |
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Great advice from the Single Guy!! |
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Instructions for posting a picture: http://s9.zetaboards.com/nythirdgen/topic/593945/1/ Welcome to any old and new members please remember we are here for you but we need your help to keep to club going. Please donate http://s9.zetaboards.com/nythirdgen/topic/7437933/1/#new For Donations and Merchandise orders paypal address is nythirdgen@live.com 1987 IROC 5.7 350 engine swap, HSR, Southbay 36lb injectors, Hedman shorty headers and y-pipe, Magnaflow Hi-flow Catalytic, 3 inch Magnaflow Exhaust System with 3.5" tips, Front end suspension rebuilt, Energy suspension polyurethane control arm bushings, Energy suspension sway bar end links, Spohn Front end steering rebuild kit (Center link, inner and outer tie rod ends, idler arm), PST springs (front and rear), KYB struts(front) and KYB Gas-a-just shocks (rear), KYB strut mounts, UMI performance subframe connectors, BMR Strut Tower Brace, Astro Van Steering Shaft upgrade | |
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| rockjay81 | Jul 14 2009, 02:35 PM Post #29 |
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ouch your gona get a ass ramming from mel and ashy lmao |
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| black83zee | Jul 14 2009, 03:25 PM Post #30 |
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>That's what the clown is hoping for! ha! |
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