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| Dark Messiah | Feb 15 2007, 03:33 AM Post #41 |
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I know how you feel now. As I mentioned in that email, me and Nell were goin through the same thing, but it's all good now. We still talk about getting married and fornication. |
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| EmiliaSoftHeart | Feb 17 2007, 12:16 AM Post #42 |
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[size=1]Oh my V-day was wonderful! i wuved every moment of it whee~ heheh, it's been over for a while but i can't stop thinking about it, y'know? school was awesome, i was happy and laughy, then when i got home i got a really lovely e-card and went on ze phone with m'love. It was lovely lovely, and the first time I ever had an actual valentine "will you be my valentines? your my first :3" awwweeee, i loved V-Day, it was the bestest, and the day after it was the bestest too, and today was also very lovely. Life is so sweet~ [/size] |
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| Neon_Fantasy | Feb 17 2007, 03:04 AM Post #43 |
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I'd like to take credit for the e-card thing! He got that idea from me hehe
But glad to hear you had a magical V-Day It's nice to hear great things happen on it. Although personally, I think V-Day should be everyday lol. It should always be a loving, happy day each day that goes by
Makes dealing with work and crap easier haha
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| Dark Messiah | Feb 17 2007, 12:01 PM Post #44 |
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Whoa whoa.. V-day everyday? Fuck that.. We're not rich, ya know..
But hey, Gabber, it's nice to see you posting here. Stick around, yah? And glad to hear you had a nice Valentine's.
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| EmiliaSoftHeart | Feb 17 2007, 02:07 PM Post #45 |
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[size=1]I know you were the one who gave him the idea rachie
i still remember the e card you gave me for my bday! i still wuvvies it to deafth x3 rachie's da best, and im glad all id going well for you and shanerand you aaron, you and nell-neell are doing better now, which makes me so happy! as for me, everyday feels like valentine's day i dont know why the rest of the world needs a holiday to remind them to be loving and giving[/size]
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| Kairi | Feb 17 2007, 03:49 PM Post #46 |
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I think that the world would explode if every day was V-Day. Heh. It would be too much love, I think, to be honest. The magic would wear out, and we'd be stuck with giving empty gifts. Or worse, we might come to hate it. I can understand how it can be a bad holiday for some. I think I saw anti-V-Day threads on a few forums, and some futaba boards, too. It can definitely be a problem for some people. Fortunately, I don't get affected. I think it's kind of funny to see other people trying to move along in their relationships, and I feel glad for those who can pull it off. I feel no bitterness about being single, because of the way I view relationships. Still, I think it's nice when people go together well. Plus, that thing with my friend giving his girlfriend (who is also a friend of mine) a bunch of candy by some sort of scheme (I guess it might have been riddles?) was really neat. |
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| EmiliaSoftHeart | Feb 17 2007, 04:50 PM Post #47 |
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[size=1]No such thing as too much love missy
you wont mean tjose words once you've fallen in true love. I know it, because i used to think the same way, i dont think that way anymore though, there should be more love! love never grows old
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| Kairi | Feb 17 2007, 05:07 PM Post #48 |
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You never know if you've fallen into "true love", though. Only in hindsight can we say that it wasn't "true love". It's called hindsight bias, and it seems that everybody is prone to it, no matter how much they can deny it. I admit that I don't understand everything about love. But it's like doing drugs; I don't have to do it to know something about it. And I know that it can turn out well for some, and turn out disastrous for others. If it works for you, good. If it doesn't, then that's too bad. Hardly anybody goes into a serious relationship with a thought other than "This is true love", but the divorce rate is just amazing. I tend to fixate on probabilities. What is the chance that a relationship's advantage will offset the disadvantages and possibilities of failure? It's weighed against the option for a relationship, for me, anyways, at this point in time. I believe it's wise for me not to do anything until I have resolved the issue of identity, as well as other things; I can't advance until I do so, and it would be irresponsible. A temporary lapse of judgment can mean a world of hurt for both parties. |
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| EmiliaSoftHeart | Feb 17 2007, 05:28 PM Post #49 |
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[size=1]Oi, girl, why do you talk like that? You've obviously never been in love it seems, real love i mean. You think every love story is the same? It's not that true love isnt real, people just dont know what it is. So many people think love is about giving gifts, and hugging, and kissing and saying sweet things, but love is far from it. True love really isnt a bundle of roses, but its not the destruction to the human heart. Love isnt an emotion, it isnt a gift from god, it isnt a miracle, and it isnt a moment in time. True love isnt pure happiness, true love is having the strenght to trust another person no matter what. It's when you're a part of that other person. It's about feeling their past as your past, about loving their flaws and seeing nothing but perfection. divorced couples are couples who had issues from the beginning, or simply people whom dont want to try and show compassion, you think love is easy? Hells no, it takes a brave person to love, a brave person to keep the FEELING of love alive. Never the less, real love can stings, but real love is forever.[/size] |
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| Dark Messiah | Feb 17 2007, 05:53 PM Post #50 |
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Well, I agree with you both on this. Some say that "true love never dies" but I truly loved a couple people, and guess what? It's dead. And people will say, "Oh, I love you so much!" then break up, get with someone better (or worse, whatever) and then say, "Oh, I don't know how I could have loved that person!" or "I didn't really love them" which I admit to being a victim of, myself. Like Kairi said, there are a lot of things out there that you don't have to experience to know about. Sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll. The 3 big things stupid hippy teens talk about all the time. But oddly enough, those are also 3 big things that people don't have to experience to really know about. Unless you're oblivious, ignorant, just plain retarded. The same can be said with love. These four things are exactly what having an open mind is all about. Thinking outside the box, being neutral, etc. I also agree with Gabber, though, in the sense of what she described as true love. Though you also forgot to add that true love is knowing your significant other better than you know yourself. It's about forgiveness of bad things, and knowing when to do the right thing. But it's not something you can push on someone either. Even that old saying "It's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all." It's true if you are the type to wanna experience everything in life at least once, but when it actually comes, and you experience love then lose it, you'll then wonder which one is exactly better. Sometimes it is better to lose it, but other times you wonder if you were better off not loving at all. |
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| Kairi | Feb 17 2007, 05:54 PM Post #51 |
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Heh, I always wonder why people like you speak the way they do on love :P. I'm definitely not a romantic by any means. Obviously, we have a slight impasse. First of all, the definition of "true love" is highly debatable. That's right, nobody's situation is the same. So your definition is different from everyone else's; it's not necessarily the right one, and it's not necessarily the wrong one. You can't impose your definition onto me because of this. Second, not everyone's going to have a perfect relationship. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen a perfect relationship. I've seen exceptionally good ones and embarrassingly bad ones, and the ones in between. And I strongly disagree with you when you say that divorced couples had problems from the start. I don't even know where to begin on that statement. But if you think that, then you probably haven't discussed relationships with a lot of divorced couples, that's for sure. Or you haven't read any of the "Dear Ann" columns in the newspapers, or whatever. Being brave is a part of being in love, but it isn't the only aspect. There's so many different factors that contribute to the end product, a relationship, and there's definitely not just love. Moreover, there are some outside your control. I think that your courage in a relationship can't be the only factor, because it's too extreme of a thought, and it doesn't take into account anything else. I think that the environment, and perhaps behaviors, can affect us as well. Kind of like reciprocal determinism. So, if real love is forever, you can't be certain that it's real love until you die. And even then some. Unless you can see the future, that is. At any rate, we are blind to our own faults, for the most part. Like I said, people usually go into relationships thinking that they have "true love", but many don't make it. That's not to say that nobody does make it; it's just a large portion. And that makes me skeptical. Finally, like I said, I don't have to experience it to understand it. I don't have to do drugs to know that they do bad things; likewise, I don't have to be in a relationship to know that they can go astray without any anticipation of problems. It's called observational learning, which has been shown in experiments. We practice it all the time in real life. Or at least I should think so. |
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| Dark Messiah | Feb 17 2007, 06:01 PM Post #52 |
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Well, I guess I shoulda waited to post my response, then.
Mine kinda ties in with yours, Kairi. Sort of.
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| Kairi | Feb 17 2007, 06:34 PM Post #53 |
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Oh, I see.
I don't know what my definition of "true love" is, though. I guess that's one more thing I have to add to the list. But it'll be down near the bottom of "things to figure out", probably... I'm still trying to find resolution on the topic of identity. Actually, I've been kind of thinking about this a lot lately. I decided that I'm not asexual; just really picky and cautious. But that will pose a problem if people find out, so I'm not exactly sure about how it will unfold. I have a feeling that I'll end up as being tsundere-type girl. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, and I definitely don't know for sure. It's just difficult. The balance of payoff and burden don't favor a relationship right now. I guess that's the crisis of being a young adult, but I always like to be prepared. |
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| Dark Messiah | Feb 18 2007, 01:04 PM Post #54 |
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I will agree with you on the whole "true love" thing. No one really knows what it means except for those who experience it. If you haven't gone through it, oh well. If you have, oh well. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. |
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| EmiliaSoftHeart | Feb 18 2007, 03:05 PM Post #55 |
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[size=1]wow, from the look of things, both of you have had some baaad memories about love, wonder what went wrong... anyway, my life is great, yup I'm sorry yours isn't Kairi, or as great as it could be, but thats just my opinion at any rate, my love is solid, and has been so for a long time, and will continue to be [/size]
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| Kairi | Feb 18 2007, 03:46 PM Post #56 |
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I didn't say that my life was bad. And now, a quote from a book. "But I don't want comfort. I want God, I want poetry, I want real danger, I want freedom, I want goodness. I want sin... I'm claiming the right to be unhappy. Not to mention the right to grow old and ugly and impotent; the right to have syphilis and cancer; the right to have too little to eat; the right to be lousy; the right to live in constant apprehension of what may happen tomorrow; the right to catch typhoid; the right to be tortured by unspeakable pains of every kind. I claim them all." All I can say is, I hope that it lasts for you. For the record, take a screenshot, and save it. Bring it back up in 20 years and look at it. I think opinions can change, just as people change throughout all of their lives. I am not a seer; my best guesses are made on statistics. A high number of people who vow to love each other until death do them part break that vow. I am not convinced that they're all liars, either. So something much be slightly off-the-mark. Of course, there is every one out of many. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen. I'm one of the small percentage of children who are adopted overseas, I'm one of the minority who develop shingles in youth, I've scored in the top 5th percentile in academics for students my age/grade, among other things. I know what it's like to be one part of the smaller statistic, so I know it's not like it doesn't happen. It's just not as common, and to see everyone saying that they are part of the minority is just gold. |
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| EmiliaSoftHeart | Feb 18 2007, 04:03 PM Post #57 |
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[size=1]lol oh god kairi, what is up with you?
you think you're a big shot? You're so funny
really, do you need to talk down on me? I'm just getting this vibe from you, you really dont like that fact that im happier than you. I mean look at you talking about how smart you are, who cares? Really, I'm not stupid, I'm top of my class too and I too am a minority, i'm hispanic, yet I've been noticed tim and time again as gifted. You dont see me bragging about it up until now, i actually dont need to, people who brag about it are unsure about their own protection, are you intimidated by me?
envy me? whats the point of all of this, its simple, I had a great valentines day, and you... had a not so great one, thats all.[/size]
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| Kairi | Feb 18 2007, 04:17 PM Post #58 |
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I just said that I feel my life is good. And that I hope your relationship will remain steady, even if the statistics go against you. Is it so much to wish someone else luck? Or perhaps you are projecting your own thoughts onto me, another faceless anonymous on the internet? In some ways, it's quite nice, that I can be a choice of dreams or nightmares over the internet. After all, some people say one thing and mean their mother... I'm not trying to inflate myself by saying that I'm a minority statistic. I'm saying that minority statistics to occur. In other words, I'm slightly conceding that it is possible to experience "true love", but under the fact that for every few people that do experience it, there are several who don't. It's not right or wrong; I don't think that putting a judgment on these sorts of things is necessarily good, since we all have our own judgments. But the truth is that a lot of relationships just don't work out. You can't deny it. I'm not specifically saying that necessarily yours or anyone else's is in any category. Like I said, it's impossible to see the future, but unbiased statistics speak. But seriously, if you're going to fixate on the idea that I'm trying to push my supremacy, there's nothing I can really say to stop you. I'm a minority, and I'm a majority. I'm an American, which is not terribly uncommon, I'm a teenager, I'm a person, and so forth, none of which are "out of the ordinary", and I believe that this is just fine, too. We're all a hodgepodge of things, to be certain. But the distribution is different within people, for better or for worse. My happiness is not determined the same way yours is. People don't have the same definition of happiness, which is also another logical fallacy. I don't need others to validate my existance. Perhaps it's not really worthwhile to pass judgment on this, but some would agree with me when I think that validation via others is a neurotic need. Perhaps, in your eyes, I could not possibly be happy, but again, it's all about how you view it. And in my eyes, my life is quite good. My grass is green, and my perception of happiness matters the most to me. |
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| EmiliaSoftHeart | Feb 18 2007, 04:21 PM Post #59 |
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[size=1]okay kairi
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| Kairi | Feb 18 2007, 04:26 PM Post #60 |
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My happiness has just been about constant for quite a while.
Granted, it isn't perfect, but I believe that it's quite satisfactory. I have a desire to rekindle some of my intense flow via. some creative medium, so I'll probably be snooping around a little bit to figure out which would be the best. But yes, everything is going quite well.
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It's nice to hear great things happen on it. Although personally, I think V-Day should be everyday lol. It should always be a loving, happy day each day that goes by
Makes dealing with work and crap easier haha


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