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Hey folks; minor rant, beware
Topic Started: Jul 28 2009, 07:46 AM (115 Views)
Brian_Va	Jul 28 2009, 07:46 AM Post #1
Little Squatch Posts: 90 Group: Members Member #187 Joined: February 19, 2007	Howdy Billy! Been a while, I've been involved with sports and cub scouts. My 6 year old finally broke my 24 year no camping streak. I haven't slept in the woods since 1985 (on that fateful night). But someone wanted to go camping with his scout troop, so I broke down and bought a tent and all. I think I can do it now, I think can spend a night actually doing some form of field work. Sheesh, what a burden thats been. Anyway, been sorta glued to Monster Quest lately. It's nice to see more mainstream society and science chasing down our fury friend. Been such taboo for so long, and the only "researchers" weren't very impressive. However my own mind is more in tune as I think more and act less on the issues of BF. This down time since I hooked with Bill D is just what the Dr ordered. My mind is telling me these days, this animal isn't as smart as it is leery and plain reclusive. Alert, aware, cognitive, and intelligent.... sure. But the more I think about it the more I realize this is very normal animal behavior for a rare species. I think we give it too much credit for brains, and maybe agility too. I've always been very open on my opinion of stick structures, pfft, I can think of a dozen reasons that have nothing to do with overgrown monkey's. Have we let Indian folklore, old wives tales and shear lack of understanding convince us we have a greater intelligence at hand? Shape shifting? Oh thats rich! I believe 100% there is something of interest, an unproven upright walking primate species is very possible. But I am so done wasting my time listening to owls and coyotes on audio, and every stick that falls from a tree being drawn down to being a Bigfoot building a house or trail marker. I'm surprised that people forget they are the highest order, nothing NO THING is smarter than us. I have reexamined the ideas of deer and intelligence, again being taken hook line and sinker to believe they are some what ultra smart in their ability to evade the business end of a rifle. It's taken some years to unlearn it, but deer are really one of the dumbest animals I ever saw. I have never been face to face with big name critters in the wild, no grizzlies, no elk, no cougars etc.. But they exist, proven and documented. But when we treat them as they are, just another wild animal, somehow we find ways to get closer to them. I think it would behoove us all to unlearn a few things, to unload stuck thinking. BF wasn't dropped from an alien ship, it's no smarter nor more able than humans. It does best what most truly wild animals do, it uses un-defiled superior senses and it keeps it's distance.



bwillard	Jul 31 2009, 06:45 PM Post #2
Director Posts: 1,018 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: June 3, 2005	Some great thinking in your post Brian, thanks for sharing them. I think we all ponder over the things as we continue to see different ideas and rethink some of our own ideas. But, I think you are right. This animal or creature we are seeking is probably given a little too much credit as far as brains are concerned. Animal instinct is a strong thing. Their sense of hearing, smell, eyesight and such are probably far beyond our capabilities due to our lifestyles. Now...if we lived in the woods, lived off the land as they do, well...who knows, maybe it would be much easier to find them. I'm sure we would develop our senses alot better than they are. Good to hear from you again!
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Brian_Va	Aug 4 2009, 07:23 AM Post #3
Little Squatch Posts: 90 Group: Members Member #187 Joined: February 19, 2007	Howdy Billy! I spend more time thinking and less time searching for anything. I do this because of time constraints, but also.... I feel we all tend to jump into our trucks and go look for prints and whatever else we can find. But how much time do spend surmising the amount utter BS associated with such a thing? A mocking bird can imitate almost any other bird, but can it make the cry of a bobcat? Secondly, why would it? I sometimes take the time to delve into critical thought about specific areas of this, because frankly, most of it is hog wash. But we seem to be ready to accept anything as proof of evidence that I don't some folks really comprehend what they are saying when they go public. Case in point. Biscardi and his frozen monkey suite. I was starting to buy this like a lot of people, because I was forced to accept it on good faith, until proven otherwise. But I could never get over the size of the freezer vs. the supposed proportions of the "creature". In doing the math I concluded that even I, at 5' 8" couldn't fit in the freezer. That 3/4" water hose gives us the scale, this wasn't really rocket science at the end of the day. The most fascinating thing I have seen of late is the is the supposed Pennsylvania monkey. BFRO has gone long on this http://www.bfro.net/avevid/jacobs/jacobs_photos.asp and it has created a sub cult of people who firmly insist this a primate. The picture is taken in proven bear country with bears in the frames of the previous 25 minutes (if I remember correctly). But the next creature in the frame set is Bigfoot? Have they all lost they marbles here? Take a nano second of time in motion, and freeze it's continuous contortion and motion and get... Bigfoot. At no point does it get on 2 feet and smile into the camera. There are days when I have the hardest time not laughing my head off at some of our "peers". This stick structure lunacy has gone overboard. We never once assume that a hobo was making a quick hut just to find he isn't so isolated and left it unfinished. 12 year olds never venture into the woods after watching movies about Indians and try their hand at teepee making? No teenagers ever go into the woods looking to create a discreet place to smoke some fun stuff? What did hunters do before GPS, and just how many can afford one? Ever take a bunch of cub scouts into the woods? Oh man, they ideas they get! Lets make a fort, a teepee, a leanto, all of which is quickly abandoned and left standing for years. Along comes BFRO or anyone else- well, we've have discovered a primitive structure of recent construction in proven Bigfoot country (oh please), could be a Bigfoot marking territory. Every terrestrial animal known to man marks with his junk, by peeing in said territory, or rubbing glands. But when it comes to Mr. Super intellect shape shifter, he builds structures, that only we primates would recognize, gee imagine that. I'm positive that rival woodland creatures, especially the bear, fully understand intelligent design and architecture, readily handing over respect for the "marker". I'm so sick of this crap. Our most modern cousins for all their intelligence can't do much more than fish out ants on a stick, thus ending the tool making saga (intelligent design). What am I not skeptical about? Good question. I find it more than coincidence that a person driving in the most remote places of north America suddenly sees one walk across the road 100 miles from anywhere. Who sits in the wilderness day and night, in a suite, waiting for this moment? Throwing objects. This is ultra reasonable to me, many creatures do it. Most monkey's will happily toss their own poo at you. Birds will gladly flick things with their beaks. So take a 600 lb upright walking creature with opposing thumbs, and send a rock 100 yards. Why not!? For what reason would a non fruit or nut bearing single 2" thick sapling with be broken off clean 8 or 10 feet from the ground, with no other tree damage around? Yes, some things make a great deal of sense to me, simply because is there is zero other rational explanation for the circumstance short of hoax. The more we believe the more we see, and the more we believe and see the more gullible we get. Biscardi should have been lesson for us all. But folks seem to go buck wild the moment they hear of a Michigan Dogman or Jacobs Creature. In the end we all need keep some healthy skepticism under our hats.



pete.wilson	Sep 6 2009, 11:10 PM Post #4
Baby Squatch Posts: 7 Group: Members Member #1,152 Joined: August 10, 2009	Brian, Thanks for your post. Your absolutely right in the need to be objective about what we read into various signs (markers, broken limbs etc. or noises we hear in the woods) that we find out in the woods. As society becomes less hunters and outdoorsman the likelyhood of be wrong increases because we have lost our natural senses. There also is WAY TOO MUCH reliance on the internet for information and less on actual field experience. People need to get out more often, walk slowly and listen carefully and enjoy nature. Pete Wilson



Brian_Va	Sep 14 2009, 05:16 AM Post #5
Little Squatch Posts: 90 Group: Members Member #187 Joined: February 19, 2007	pete.wilson Sep 6 2009, 11:10 PM Brian, Thanks for your post. Your absolutely right in the need to be objective about what we read into various signs (markers, broken limbs etc. or noises we hear in the woods) that we find out in the woods. As society becomes less hunters and outdoorsman the likelyhood of be wrong increases because we have lost our natural senses. There also is WAY TOO MUCH reliance on the internet for information and less on actual field experience. People need to get out more often, walk slowly and listen carefully and enjoy nature. Pete Wilson Yeah, I agree. But I floored to say the least at how much BS has become associated with it all. I'm shocked at what people believe. I have lay my eye's on dozens of photos of "formations". Oh please, I don't why anyone would think for a minute in life that every little knee high pile of sticks or fallen tree limbs constitutes a "formation". I like Billy's approach to it (applied science), and that would be my rout too, with a heavy dose of skepticism. But to conclude that we have a creature? Of what proven species, based on what proven behavior? Again I am left with one thought; For what reason should such an aloof master of the forest need to do that? yes, by all means, study it, learn from it. But please, don't ever take every little whoop and howl as "evidence" of a creature. It seems that no amount of clear cut bull is enough. Ever see the Penn and Teller fake bigfoot video? What a gas! There were a certain amount of people who very stupidly fell hook line and sinker for that one. I have said and will remain steadfast, there is something in the woods of north America we just haven't figured out yet. However, not every turned over 300lb boulder that 2 or 3 teen agers could have flipped over or any 150lb bear could have muscled out is ever going to impress me, and the closer it is to civilization the less impressed I'll be.



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